2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

SI wrote:
What was for dinner mate?

Chicken pasta bake

filthridden wrote:

I need more information. Do you not drink water in the build up? What are the rules around post-game hydration? What if there are multiple games on in a night? What do you do in bye weeks? Do you keep the water in the fridge or the straight from the tap?

I only take small sips of water throughout the day leading up to the game. I have found that after a full 80 minute game of rugby league you are well and truly hydrated, unless your player goes off in the 5th minute due to an injury or HIA, at which point I take a shot every time the players name is mentioned for an injury update. As there are potential health risks with consuming such a large volume of water in a short space of time I only consume a maximum of 1.5L of water over an entire evening of rugby league. The fantastic thing about this game is that it can be played during bye weeks or for State of Origin football. I like my water nice and cold so I prefer to keep it refrigerated so it stays crisp and fresh. For this drinking game I only ever consume top shelf Natural Artesian water as I like my water with a PH level of 7.7. If you are a student and wish to partake in this game I suggest you purchase a Brita water filter.

Milchcow wrote:

Supercoach players complain about stats (which come from Fox) just as much as we do. Their biggest gripes are around try assists whereas we we complain more about tackle busts, but the complaints are still there.
I believe fox are stricter on what constitutes a tackle though, so serial floppers get less reward which would be nice (in last night's game Fox awarded 657 tackles to prozone's 701)


If they just dumped TBs down to 2 points from 3, that would help. One of the reasons we care about TBs so much is that they are overvalued in fantasy scoring.

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TB's are overvalued for sure but as you've said before it gives WFB's and CTR's more of a level playing field re scores compared to HKR, FRF, 2RF positions.

As for Supercoach's complaining just as much as us, that's because they're a bunch whinging sooks playing a shit game. Whilst Fox aren't perfect they're stats do correspond more times with the stats I take on my own players per game. I've also noticed they are stricter on the TB slaps too.

Watching Edwards last night from the game itself I was happy to have played him, but now that he got robbed wish I put Semi in instead. He had at least 4 or 5 TB's. For them to count 2 is just cruel.

bluetige wrote:Kick Diffusals are confusing and I've watched them closely in the past to try and work out how they are awarded. They are only awarded in a contended situation or someone has to be within a few metres to apply pressure. A kick diffusal is also from a grubber kick, chip kick or bomb. It is also awarded when when forcing the ball in goal or knocking it dead provided the kick was contended.

That should help.

As for D Edwards TB's last night, I thought he was robbed a few as well. I think Ramesh and Sujay cashed him out this week. Watch for another WFB to go big without doing anything.

Personally, I wish the NRL would take the stats from Fox, they seem to be more accurate.

In a perfect Fantasy world we would get.
Stats from Fox
Fantasy Platform from Virtual Sports (the old dreamteam)
Rules, point scoring and price changes the current way

Gotta say, I would hate to lose FanHub's current platform and aesthetics. I understand it took them 3 and a half years to get to this point, but deadset the VS platform is like jumping from a WN Caprice back into a VK Commy.

I also understand VS are doing what they can with their funds, but they really don't seem to have upped the anti. An example I would use would be that this year they admitted that their 'negative stats' were a bit harsh. This is also the major complaint with those who don't play VS anymore. So what did Vapour do about it? They got rid of the sin bin and send off. Wait, what? That affects a couple of players a year. How could anyone think this would encourage people back to them? And they made it as a big selling point in their spiel this season. Why would they NOT drop the negatives on Errors and Penalties?

I understand the argument of the punishment fitting the crime and the truer game experience of what an Error costs a side, but is that genuinely why we play?

Not VS bashing by the way, I hate what FanHub did, but credit where credit is due, their platform is miles ahead of VS in every aspect in my book. NOW.

Sam Burgess is in doubt due to a rib injury. The final call on whether he will play will be made on Friday.

How could Wacko say this when the coach confirmed yesterday that he will play?!

bluetige wrote:
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TB's are overvalued for sure but as you've said before it gives WFB's and CTR's more of a level playing field re scores compared to HKR, FRF, 2RF positions.

As for Supercoach's complaining just as much as us, that's because they're a bunch whinging sooks playing a shit game. Whilst Fox aren't perfect they're stats do correspond more times with the stats I take on my own players per game. I've also noticed they are stricter on the TB slaps too.

Haha totally agree. I only play SC because a bunch of muppets at work play it, and I must admit, every year I do freaking terribly (at least in comparison to NRLF and VSDT). Just outside top 50 in VSDT, about 250 or so in NRLF, and 5000 or so in SC!

I own D. Edwards & it is what it is. It's all swings & roundabouts. You may feel you got ripped off with 1 player but we don't complain when another player gets a greater score than he deserved. It all balances out in the end.

wolfking wrote:Sam Burgess is in doubt due to a rib injury. The final call on whether he will play will be made on Friday.

How could Wacko say this when the coach confirmed yesterday that he will play?!

He often contradicts himself. In his sc blog yesterday he said he would play.

Milchcow wrote:

SI wrote:
Gotta say, I would hate to lose FanHub's current platform and aesthetics. I understand it took them 3 and a half years to get to this point, but deadset the VS platform is like jumping from a WN Caprice back into a VK Commy.

Same thoughts here. The fantasy interface shits all over the vapormedia one.
So clunky trying to scroll through players when making/researching trades.

Why would they NOT drop the negatives on Errors and Penalties?

This might come as news to you 20 rounds into the season, but they did drop penalties from scoring this year.

Only negatives in dreamteam are errors and missed tackles.  Conceding a penalty has no impact on score

Personally I'd rather they keep penalties and reduce the negatives for errors and missed tackles. -4 points for an error is way too harsh

Wowsers! No wonder I am doing so shit. Agree, would rather a balance between penalties and errors.

Re that Wacko tweet he's is spot on in this case. The guy I quoted on sc addicts (Joseph Tannous) who said Surgess was out when he pulled his ass muscle posted on Thursday night that they would needle him up today before training & then assess the situation after but he is leaning more towards playing on Saturday. I will also add that Tannous is a bit of a legend on sc addicts & has never been wrong on his scoops but is also a Souths insider so what he says is usually true.

SI wrote:
Gotta say, I would hate to lose FanHub's current platform and aesthetics. I understand it took them 3 and a half years to get to this point, but deadset the VS platform is like jumping from a WN Caprice back into a VK Commy.

I also understand VS are doing what they can with their funds, but they really don't seem to have upped the anti. An example I would use would be that this year they admitted that their 'negative stats' were a bit harsh. This is also the major complaint with those who don't play VS anymore. So what did Vapour do about it? They got rid of the sin bin and send off. Wait, what? That affects a couple of players a year. How could anyone think this would encourage people back to them? And they made it as a big selling point in their spiel this season. Why would they NOT drop the negatives on Errors and Penalties?

I understand the argument of the punishment fitting the crime and the truer game experience of what an Error costs a side, but is that genuinely why we play?

Not VS bashing by the way, I hate what FanHub did, but credit where credit is due, their platform is miles ahead of VS in every aspect in my book. NOW.

SI, you're talking about rules and scoring and I already said that our current system is better. Getting rid of the negatives is not the platform I am referring to. This year I haven't played VSDT but from what I recall its a preferable system in my eyes then the Fanhub shit they dish out and still after 4 years can't get right. (example, bye round game scores not updating). And these stupid player photos they have. How fucking dumb, they don't even upgrade the photo's when players change clubs, that's if a player is even given a photo. I prefer to browse by jersey colour not hair cut.

At least the VK commy was reliable

White Lightning wrote:I own D. Edwards & it is what it is. It's all swings & roundabouts. You may feel you got ripped off with 1 player but we don't complain when another player gets a greater score than he deserved. It all balances out in the end.

There's no room for rational thinking here brah!

White Lightning wrote:Re that Wacko tweet he's is spot on in this case. The guy I quoted on sc addicts (Joseph Tannous) who said Surgess was out when he pulled his ass muscle posted on Thursday night that they would needle him up today before training & then assess the situation after but he is leaning more towards playing on Saturday. I will also add that Tannous is a bit of a legend on sc addicts & has never been wrong on his scoops but is also a Souths insider so what he says is usually true.

I guess we'll see. I wish we knew either way, tossing up whether to play Semi tonight over him. Probably won't though.

wolfking wrote:

There's no room for rational thinking here brah!

Believe me I wanted him to score 45+ because I'm up against Milchy in L51 & his team is awesome & I need every point that I can get since he doesn't own Edwards.

my tv broke wrote:Speaking of commentators i've noticed lately that Warren Smith uses alot of the same phrases over and over, especially  "wore/copped/got a shot for his troubles". Now that I've picked up on it, it stands out to me every single time. Wondering if any others have noticed this, he pulled one out last night. I might develop a drinking game for Woz

for me its the term manufacture. johns started using it a lot this year, "he's manufactured a kick out of nothing", "hes someonehow manufactured a pass" and now i hear sterlo using it.

Not sure if the boys looked up a thesaurus and thought yeah i like the sound of that, or if their media people reckon the word connects with the audience.

The one that gets me is a term which is legit but I have never heard it or used it in everyday life. That's 'for mine' Braith Anasta started using it every fucking second sentence when he started on fox, now every bloody commentator is using it over and over again. Just annoys the shit out of me.