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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 4

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    Post by GreenMachine Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:53 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Serious question. After 4 rounds would you rather
    A) be leading the comp, having increased team value by $200k
    B) be 200 points behind the leader but have increased team value by $800k

    No brainer A. Means your guns are all firing because B is all about cow success. You already have the players team B needs to spend their 800k on upgrades on.

    Good foundation to make tweaks and change a couple of your cows without needing to shift your guns around
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    Post by Buramada Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:18 am

    GreenMachine wrote:

    No brainer A. Means your guns are all firing because B is all about cow success. You already have the players team B needs to spend their 800k on upgrades on.

    Good foundation to make tweaks and change a couple of your cows without needing to shift your guns around

    Bit of a 'strawman' argument there right Milchcow? Of course people would be like to be leading the comp, but if you have increased your team value by 800k instead of 200k, you are way more likely to be leading the comp. Especially with only 4 players per round not scoring. How many guns do you expect to have in you team, without having an 18-21 that is going to leave you without cover for injuries.

    I really like the changes. They require creating much more balance between the two, including picking winners and losers from some required 'mid-rangers'. Most of the teams I have seen with a combo of Smith and Fifita or something similar are going to lose all the points they gain from them in their shit-house bench and if they cop a few injuries are going to be playing some very marginal players in their 14-17 who will not make cash or score points
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:39 am

    On Mannering moving to the back row, he doesn't make as many tackles but he does score more tries
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    Post by ryno_ Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:50 am

    Care of CMAIL:

    Broncos suffer two injuries in 16-6 trial win over Capras. Tom Opacic (hamstring) and English import Andre Savelio to have scans on possible ACL tear. Full story @cmail_sport
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    Post by Chewie Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:25 am

    Moose wrote:The 2018 NRL Fantasy Fanatics Leagues Registration thread is now open!!

    Registrations close Midnight Friday 23/02/18.

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    Post by Chewie Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:30 am

    Looks like I'll be getting a big promotion in the official NRL Fantasy Fanatics Leagues as most can't remember last year's ranking Razz
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    Post by Mulvy Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:53 am

    Any word on which side Harris and Hiku are training on? Hiku likes a missed tackle at centre but I'd be more comfortable if he was on Harris' side.
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    Post by Honey Badger Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:51 am

    mulvy wrote:Any word on which side Harris and Hiku are training on? Hiku likes a missed tackle at centre but I'd be more comfortable if he was on Harris' side.

    Assuming Harris will be on the left with Green. Kata normally left ctr but unsure who will be left ctr this season
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    Post by Vanish Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:17 pm

    Buramada wrote:

    Bit of a 'strawman' argument there right Milchcow? Of course people would be like to be leading the comp, but if you have increased your team value by 800k instead of 200k, you are way more likely to be leading the comp. Especially with only 4 players per round not scoring. How many guns do you expect to have in you team, without having an 18-21 that is going to leave you without cover for injuries.

    I really like the changes. They require creating much more balance between the two, including picking winners and losers from some required 'mid-rangers'. Most of the teams I have seen with a combo of Smith and Fifita or something similar are going to lose all the points they gain from them in their shit-house bench and if they cop a few injuries are going to be playing some very marginal players in their 14-17 who will not make cash or score points

    I beleive it's technically a 'false limited choice' arguement.

    Yeah, that teams that score the most points will also be the ones that's make the most bank. The only way I see to be that behind is to deliberately hold back cash at the start, and get exclusively cashies. The problem here is the limited number of trades each week. You'll have all that money but it'll take ages to invest that in players that will be earning you points.

    The eariler you get a gun, the more points they earn you overall.
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    Post by Kiwi Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:19 pm

    Hi guys, here we go again. Looks like I'm well behind the rest of you in regards to reseach and planning how to make the most of the new changes.

    Anyone know how to find last year's rankings? Or maybe results from fanatics overall league?

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    Post by Finch Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm

    FWIW, I think Fusitua is wasted on the wing and should be CTR, but I'm assuming he will be playing wing to fit everyone in.
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    Post by Vanish Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:42 pm

    So a week late on this news, but looks like ticket prices at ANZ stadium are going down this year. Clearly their research is telling them what we all knew, that attending live was too damn expensive. So hopefully these changes get more people to ANZ and improve the atmosphere there.

    https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/05/ticket-food-prices-slashed-for-anz-stadium-games-in-2018/
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:50 pm

    Finch wrote:FWIW, I think Fusitua is wasted on the wing and should be CTR, but I'm assuming he will be playing wing to fit everyone in.

    I agree. Fusitua is the Warriors best ctr & they stick him on the wing. Kata is a mug who makes basic errors & doesn't know how to pass let alone set up his winger & they pick him at ctr.
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    Post by Milchcow Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:54 pm

    Buramada wrote:

    Bit of a 'strawman' argument there right Milchcow? Of course people would be like to be leading the comp, but if you have increased your team value by 800k instead of 200k, you are way more likely to be leading the comp. Especially with only 4 players per round not scoring. How many guns do you expect to have in you team, without having an 18-21 that is going to leave you without cover for injuries.

    No strawman, it was a genuine question, not an argument either way, and there is no 'correct' answer.
    There was zero information given about the make up of the respective teams either. People are going to make whatever assumptions they want to as to why the teams are scoring as they are.


    The intent between the 2 team differences was a stacked starting team with nuffies in 18-21, or a balanced team with less guns, but money making potential in 18-21. 
    eg  at a basic level Cam Smith will score more than Cook - but Cook will make more money and use the extra cash to improve the reserves.


    I did sort of stuff up the questions though  - the 200 point lead was supposed to be after 5 weeks, not 4.

    With a magic number of ~15,000. $600,000 extra profit translates to team B can improve their starting team by 40 points extra a week.

    So if team A was beating by team B by 40 points a week then they would theoretically be in about the same position if team B had an extra 40 points worth of cash to spend on their team, all other things being equal (All other things wouldn't be equal)

    Its a bit of a silly question in that someone making that much money wouldn't really be that far behind in points, unless they'd gotten unlucky with a couple of 1st minute injuries giving crap scores or something like that.

    But if someone does somehow manage to jump to a big overall lead early but without any cash generation, you can almost guarantee they'll get run down, If not by the team B in my question, then by someone else who managed to get the right cashies and the ability to storm home with a much better final team
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    Post by Chewie Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm

    With only 21 in the team and only 4 positions for "high risk" cashcows. It's going to be even more important to get the balance of the team right in round 1, less margin for errors. Picking the right cows is going to make all the difference... Picking too many cows can really backfire.
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    Post by Alfie Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:02 pm

    For anyone interested, Aitken averaged 43 if you exclude an injury affected game in which he played 20 minutes and a game in which he played on the wing.
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    Post by Mulvy Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:27 pm

    If Inglis is named at centre in round one, is he still a buy? Could just play centre a couple of games to ease back in then go to fullback. A lot of unknowns. I think I am talking myself out of him. I like Dedwards to score more tries and Panthers have a pretty good draw but he is expensive. Even if he didn't increase in value he will be among the elite in his position you would think but ultimately I am looking for value.
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    Post by Shooter McGavin Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:31 pm

    Alfie wrote:For anyone interested, Aitken averaged 43 if you exclude an injury affected game in which he played 20 minutes and a game in which he played on the wing.

    Thanks Mate, great to have some comfort in my choice (even if my brother thinks he's a waste of money). From memory he scores slow and steadily unlike other traditional high scoring centers (eg. James Roberts) who score most points in a couple big plays, reducing risk you would think?
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    Post by Mulvy Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 pm

    Shooter McGavin wrote:

    Thanks Mate, great to have some comfort in my choice (even if my brother thinks he's a waste of money). From memory he scores slow and steadily unlike other traditional high scoring centers (eg. James Roberts) who score most points in a couple big plays, reducing risk you would think?

    Solid choice imo. Though I'm going Maubbs and the other one I like is Mitchell - likes the slapsie tb and goal kicking as well.
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    Post by Shooter McGavin Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:38 pm

    Sorry, probably already answered but how many top shelf guns are people aiming for their team in round 1? Also Dufty worth a look in?

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