2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 61

R And T apparently they consulted some fantasy stalwarts mate.

I hve heard many rumours that, that huge bellend Butters was one of the guys in the conversation.

Whether it’s true or not but if anyone suggested this actual set up they are as big a moron as the guys setting up the app at seasons start

Welshy wrote:
Zora would be further ahead if he had looped I have no doubts about that! Just hasn’t used the opportunity because he hasn’t felt it to be correct or because he hasn’t had red dots to move around

Not sure about that. Loopholing requires you have red dots, and perhaps one of the reasons he's ahead is that he doesn't have red dots. Particularly early in the season when generating cash is basically the name of the game, if you have red dots then I think you were at a big disadvantage, even if you were loopholing.

I'd love to see a list of rankings along side loop or not!

Im not in the same league as Zora, but I've been top 50-100 for much of the year and only loopholed once from memory. My team was full of green dots at the beginning of the year, generated cash, got my final team together by round 17 and that seems to have worked well for me.

And to be honest, I can't think of a person who has been a regular loopholer on this forum that has a good ranking. There may be a few, but the ones I can think of aren't doing great.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

Ofcourse they knew about it she even brags about doing in afl fantasy

Says it all and she’s a cunt

Welshy wrote:R And  T apparently they consulted some fantasy stalwarts mate.

I hve heard many rumours that, that huge bellend Butters was one of the guys in the conversation.

Whether it’s true or not but if anyone suggested this actual set up they are as big a moron as the guys setting up the app at seasons start

From what I've seen that guy say in his videos, consulting him gives more weight to the theory they had no idea about the setup they were creating.

To be honest mate, the set up makes sense in terms of clicks regardless of whether they know the loophole thing existed. Thats why I think it won't change next year and why this will be my last year!

I just feel that the set up makes the game not an even playing field because it requires people to not make a morale stand on it, and regardless of that it requires coaches to be able to be online basically every day from Thursday through Sunday for 26 weeks in the year. Thats impossible for me, so I just dont see the point in playing a game where I know Im at a huge disadvantage.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

Not sure about that. Loopholing requires you have red dots, and perhaps one of the reasons he's ahead is that he doesn't have red dots. Particularly early in the season when generating cash is basically the name of the game, if you have red dots then I think you were at a big disadvantage, even if you were loopholing.

I'd love to see a list of rankings along side loop or not!

Im not in the same league as Zora, but I've been top 50-100 for much of the year and only loopholed once from memory. My team was full of green dots at the beginning of the year, generated cash, got my final team together by round 17 and that seems to have worked well for me.

And to be honest, I can't think of a person who has been a regular loopholer on this forum that has a good ranking. There may be a few, but the ones I can think of aren't doing great.

Understand what you are saying mate but we are only a veryyy small minority in terms on the greater NRL fantasy scope, you don’t need all your guys making money if you nailed the big earners early then cash and points generation early season are no problem and like you still get your top team early and still have the loop opportunity. It’s there mate loads use it I don’t care no more haha

Welshy wrote:
Understand what you are saying mate but we are only a veryyy small minority in terms on the greater NRL fantasy scope, you don’t need all your guys making money if you nailed the big earners early then cash and points generation early season are no problem and like you still get your top team early and still have the loop opportunity. It’s there mate loads use it I don’t care no more haha

I think we generally agree on this mate. At least to the extent that the set up they've created is shit and unfair.

That being said, I'm not convinced it advantages people as much as some (you perhaps?) think.

Either way they do need to fix it!

By the way, I actually think the biggest impact of loopholing will be form now till the end of the season. I actually think it probably hasn't impacted things much to this point. But now, when people have their final 17s, cash generation is not important, and if you have a red dot now, you are sacrificing anything, but are getting a free hit at one played most weeks.

Holland is presumably a good example this week. I think a number of people will loop him in...

Welshy wrote:R And  T apparently they consulted some fantasy stalwarts mate.

I hve heard many rumours that, that huge bellend Butters was one of the guys in the conversation.

Whether it’s true or not but if anyone suggested this actual set up they are as big a moron as the guys setting up the app at seasons start

Agree re Butters. He talks a big game but it doesn't translate to success.

White Lightning wrote:

Agree re Butters. He talks a big game but it doesn't translate to success.

How'd you go last night WL?

Im benchmarking myself against you at this stage of the season

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

I think we generally agree on this mate. At least to the extent that the set up they've created is shit and unfair.

That being said, I'm not convinced it advantages people as much as some (you perhaps?) think.

Either way they do need to fix it!

By the way, I actually think the biggest impact of loopholing will be form now till the end of the season. I actually think it probably hasn't impacted things much to this point. But now, when people have their final 17s, cash generation is not important, and if you have a red dot now, you are sacrificing anything, but are getting a free hit at one played most weeks.

Holland is presumably a good example this week. I think a number of people will loop him in...

I agree with you mate just as you say reckon we differ on the extent and effectiveness of it all. Really hope you stick around next season mate. And I’ll see you in the NFL fantasy stadium anyway!

White Lightning wrote:

Agree re Butters. He talks a big game but it doesn't translate to success.

I class him as same level as Fiona

Is this about looping?

I love looping. I made 3 videos yesterday explaining how because people always misunderstanding how it works. It exists, everyone can do it. What's the problem. It needs to exist for late injury replacements. The old AE system sucked

Welshy wrote:
well that's the fucking point isn't it? They are a bunch of spastics, They haven't done their jobs properly and everyone knows it but they still try to pass it off as part of the game to justify doing it, that's what winds me up

The gloating about it does my fucking tits in

I am not gloating. I am just stating facts.
I could have taken Brimson's score but I will swap Ponga into my starting side for his 50+ score.
I am happy with that at this stage.

No gloating, honest.

wolfking wrote:You know what they say Welshy, if you can't beat 'em..........

Get a tattoo?

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

I agree that the set up is shit, BUT, I think its very telling that the guy in first hasn't looped!

The guy in first is feeling a lot of pressure to do it this week, though, with Holland on the bench and Ponga sitting below him Feel like at this stage I'm silly not to do it knowing everyone else will be.

I setup Holland as first WFB at #7 to come in for Ponga. Mbye is at #8 I'm not even having to loop but love the backup option

SI wrote:

How it is structured is there for all to use mate.  I don't think any die hard Fantasy player isn't aware of how the system is.  Just like last year, and the year before that.

FWIW I haven't used the poolhop this year at all; I get it, but it scares me  

It scares me too but I am a man who meets his fears head on like jumping out of a plane and going near lavender plants. That shit is disgusting.

zorasdomain wrote:
The guy in first is feeling a lot of pressure to do it this week, though, with Holland on the bench and Ponga sitting below him Feel like at this stage I'm silly not to do it knowing everyone else will be.

Do it! I dont have Holland but I'd take his score if I could

Welshy wrote:
Zora would be further ahead if he had looped I have no doubts about that! Just hasn’t used the opportunity because he hasn’t felt it to be correct or because he hasn’t had red dots to move around

I think I'm mostly in the position I'm in because I've always had a pretty strong team and haven't had too many weeks where I've had red dots to use. The few weeks I have I haven't been in a position to micromanage my team midweek, but I don't think it has lost me many points, if any.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

How'd you go last night WL?

Im benchmarking myself against you at this stage of the season

I only had Martin playing. A quiet night tonight as well with only Fifita playing. What worries me is Manly v Roosters on Sunday where I have 6 players.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

Not sure about that. Loopholing requires you have red dots, and perhaps one of the reasons he's ahead is that he doesn't have red dots. Particularly early in the season when generating cash is basically the name of the game, if you have red dots then I think you were at a big disadvantage, even if you were loopholing.

I'd love to see a list of rankings along side loop or not!

Im not in the same league as Zora, but I've been top 50-100 for much of the year and only loopholed once from memory. My team was full of green dots at the beginning of the year, generated cash, got my final team together by round 17 and that seems to have worked well for me.

Yeah, what R&T said.