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I'd keep Tolman though and move Mahoney, reckon his scores will be far more stable
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Would rather move Macca than Mahoney. Mahoney is doing his job each week, decent minutes, decent scores, plays round 12.
Macca could be an option to move to fill weaknesses elsewhere.
If you look through the team:
HOK is ok, but pretty meh.
FRF are guns with decent backup in Lawrie, even if coming off the bench
2RF are looking great
HLF Morgan may not even play this week and have 2 rookies. Part of the reason to bring Morgan in is disappearing, form, likely carrying an injury, the dreaded new halves partner. Targeting upgrading them should be the primary focus. I added 2 decent mids to my halves this week as my own team had the same weakness, now looks much more balanced.
CTR Looking good, solid
WFB Decent enough for now, no guns out there killing it, mid range is where its at
So while we want to find fallen guns coming up, covering our key weaknesses is at least as, if not more important.
Macca could be an option to move to fill weaknesses elsewhere.
If you look through the team:
HOK is ok, but pretty meh.
FRF are guns with decent backup in Lawrie, even if coming off the bench
2RF are looking great
HLF Morgan may not even play this week and have 2 rookies. Part of the reason to bring Morgan in is disappearing, form, likely carrying an injury, the dreaded new halves partner. Targeting upgrading them should be the primary focus. I added 2 decent mids to my halves this week as my own team had the same weakness, now looks much more balanced.
CTR Looking good, solid
WFB Decent enough for now, no guns out there killing it, mid range is where its at
So while we want to find fallen guns coming up, covering our key weaknesses is at least as, if not more important.
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this right but no new cows turned up this week. We can wait a week but we can't loose money making potential if they don't make money this week.Milchy wrote:
Ravalawa and Sivo as outs
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code delta wrote:
this right but no new cows turned up this week. We can wait a week but we can't loose money making potential if they don't make money this week.
Feel its the pain of most people now having Garrick/Sivo/Ravalawa chew up team spots and not making much/any cash.
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mattnz wrote:Would rather move Macca than Mahoney. Mahoney is doing his job each week, decent minutes, decent scores, plays round 12.
Macca could be an option to move to fill weaknesses elsewhere.
If you look through the team:
HOK is ok, but pretty meh.
FRF are guns with decent backup in Lawrie, even if coming off the bench
2RF are looking great
HLF Morgan may not even play this week and have 2 rookies. Part of the reason to bring Morgan in is disappearing, form, likely carrying an injury, the dreaded new halves partner. Targeting upgrading them should be the primary focus. I added 2 decent mids to my halves this week as my own team had the same weakness, now looks much more balanced.
CTR Looking good, solid
WFB Decent enough for now, no guns out there killing it, mid range is where its at
So while we want to find fallen guns coming up, covering our key weaknesses is at least as, if not more important.
I own Mahoney in NRLF and VSDT, and while I'd love him to be around by round 12, Im considering that a massive bonus. I highly doubt he maintains high enough scoring to warrant keeping him. And keeping him for round 12 reminds me of a couple poor buggers that kept Rochow for way too long last year. My point here is that round 12 is just a bonus for certain players at this stage and shouldn't be a reason to hold them. That all said, there's no way Mahoney is a trade right now. As long as he's scoring and making money, we should hold him.
Im torn on Tolman, I'd love to hear what doggies fans/knowledgable people think, but doesn't that bench make up look more favourable for Tolman this week? Add to that Pay is making changes and clearly the Dogs have been more solid within on the field, and he can play bigger minutes. Im hopeful we get more production out of him.
Macca is doing a job, not quite what we'd hoped for but he's hardly far away. Would seem premature to dump a 50+ guy off of what we've seen so far.
Edwards for me would be the best bet to drop to free up cash, but I dont see anyone worth bringing in to our startegin team to replace him at the price we'd require, so I dont see him as an option either.
Morgan has the potential to be crazy value. 1 shitty game which was clearly hampered by an injury is surely not enough to ditch him.
By default that lends me to Capewell, who has the dreaded utility value (wing last week) a 30 score that will slow his money making a bit, probably a realistic average 40, so therefore I'd be surprised if we eek out much more than $100k out of him if we were to hold before we were forced to trade him anyway....
So after a bit of thought, Im thinking Capewell to Bird meaning $106k CITB and then a big call as to whether we want to play CC roulette.
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Mentioned in the main thread, but for community team fans, do we bring Rein in this week?
McCullough to rein next week if we don't, but do we try and get him in now?
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Our trade out options aren't great. I'd be tempted to wait the week and get rid of FAC.
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Probably Burr to Rein would be my pick if we did it this week.
Otherwise McCullough to Rein next week would give us a big bank roll for Teddy/Crichton moves
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I like Macca to Rein next week to enable a Teddy fund
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Someone put up a poll, quick lol
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I dont even think its a question - I think you bring Rein in if you can. If not this week, we'd do it next week anyway.... So why wait? He'll just cost us more money and we'd miss out on points.
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Macca is the perfect trade out and he’s already played.Rippin and Tearin wrote:I dont even think its a question - I think you bring Rein in if you can. If not this week, we'd do it next week anyway.... So why wait? He'll just cost us more money and we'd miss out on points.
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Rippin and Tearin wrote:I dont even think its a question - I think you bring Rein in if you can. If not this week, we'd do it next week anyway.... So why wait? He'll just cost us more money and we'd miss out on points.
Are you saying it's not a question and we bring him in this week, or it's not a question and we bring him in next week?
Sounds like this week. Who would you ditch for him? As Krump says, the obvious trade out has already played
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Milchy wrote:
Are you saying it's not a question and we bring him in this week, or it's not a question and we bring him in next week?
Sounds like this week. Who would you ditch for him? As Krump says, the obvious trade out has already played
I was meaning this week, although I may have got a touch excited - I thought from what I was reading the scans were complete, but it sounds like there is still some ambiguity there. The other question I have is will Rein play 80?
I think if he is gonna get 4+ games and he's still an 80 minute guy he's a must. Even 60 minutes at his historical PPM would be worth it.
I think probably Capewell and then I think we seriously consider dumping Macca next week. Watching Bateman play again tonight, he is a must have, regardless if he's playing edge or middle.
So next week I'd be looking at Macca to Bateman.
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I think as tempting as it is to get him this week, we wait for news on Peats. If he is 4 weeks or less then it's Ok to pass up.
Otherwise next week Macca to Rein and then we have enough to cash to upgrade just about anyone to Bateman/Teddy/Crichton
or Capewell to Rein this week, and next week maybe Macca to Bateman and Edwards to Teddy
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Can anyone post the team as it is now after Capewell Rein trade? Just text format would be good the pictures are to big to see on the phone properly they cut out half the team. How much cash is left?
Thanks
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Shanbon wrote:Can anyone post the team as it is now after Capewell Rein trade? Just text format would be good the pictures are to big to see on the phone properly they cut out half the team. How much cash is left?
Thanks
Macca
Fifita(c) Taupau
Murray Arrow Lane
Morgan Keighran
Nikora Bird
Burns Edwards CNK
Mahoney Lawrie Garner Rein
Brown Burr Rava Sivo
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Round 3 Wrap up
So 722 points probably wasn't where we saw this going after a strong opening 2 rounds but like most this was an awful round for the team. This puts us at 1,894th overall, 40th in the FOG and still clinging onto 2nd in the celebrity though we moved back to the pack this week.
Community Trades and Decisions
A bit of a mixed bag this week with Tolman (52 +15k) and Capewell (39 +12k) leaving our squad for Bird (37 +52k) and Rein (55 + 21k) so while we only gained a point it did significantly increase our cash generation. I'd put these down as good trades with a hint of sideways.
Keighran was outscored by Brown but 2 points isn't worth being too upset about so our half roulette game is still going strong.
Captain Fifita (46) was underwhelming but it could have been a lot worse as we will see in what will be my longest section of this report later...... but first.
The STUDS
The week looked off to a good start with CNK belting out a team high 71. Sivo went one better on our EMGs with his 75 to start generating fat stacks of cash and after that we didn't have a lot to write home about.
Honorable mentions to Taupau(56), a one half wonder Garner(47), Murray(56), Nikora (41) and Rein(55) who salvaged what could have been a very poor score.
Also full credit to our cash generators Bird (37), Morgan (43), Lawrie (36), Brown (30), Keighran (28), Ravalawa (35) and the almost traded Burr (45) that will fund future upgrades
The Duds
This is going to be painful reading but stick with me:
- Burns ( - Suffered a hamstring/ankle injury within 25 minutes to halt what has been a strong player. With news of his injury being 4 weeks long decisions on how much value trading/holding him is (cash is in the tank/loophole potential)
- Edwards (12) - I only watched the highlights and it was painful enough. Hasn't had a dry track yet and the panthers are yet to click but this hurt. After this week he is averaging less than Sivo, Rava and Garrick.
- Arrow (29) - Now we are getting really inconsistent scores. This brings his average to 52 which is fine but these low scores hurt none the less.
- Mahoney (31) - A week with no attacking stats showed us Mahoneys floor which may limit any future price rises
- Lane (34) - A down week. Still a better headache than Gillet as he at least hit his BE
- Macca (46) - He's just not doing quite enough to give me confidence. This pick wanted a floor of 50+ and
- Fifita (46) - A captain below 50 isn't what you want so he makes this list
Ranta's Concern
Normally at this point I'd like to see the team coming together with points increasing, most middies that aren't making the leap gone, cash being nicely generated and guns performing respectably with an eye to ease off trades in the next round or two. Maybe round 4 will show that my concerns are unwarranted and that this was just a really bad round but hey gotta go with recency bias. Although I do agree with @GreenMachine this was a round for the casuals (viable picks but the big scores were on guys with high BE's). I've done a deep dive on our team and classified them below. If you disagree leave a reply but want to get some discussion going on the team as a whole.
Italics = I don't love the pick but we have bigger issues
Underlined = On my moving soon list
Normal = Happy
HOK
McCollough - Underperforming middie - He is what we paid for. He is providing good consistent scores but has been underwhelming relative to expectations. Provides good depth.
Mahoney - Close to peaked middie - Has raised 70k. Has 20k more in him if he averages 40.
Rein - King Cash Cow is back. Probably our most reliable hooker until Peats returns. Should have good money and scores.
FRF
Fifita - Keeper
Taupau - Keeper
Lawrie - Strong Cow - Still got 80 -100k in the next three weeks with scores of 35-40
2RF
Arrow - Keeper(probably) - An average of 52 is just below keeper level and 29 isn't his usual. Concerning floor but not our biggest problem right now.
Murray - Performing Middie - Loving the consistency. Not sold he is a keeper with tries boosting his scores but we have the time to find out and he can play his way to this role over time.
Lane - Close to peaked middie - Has raised 22k. Has 20k more in him if he averages 45. Needs a big score to generate cash again.
Garner - Strong cow - 35s will see him put on a minimum of 65k. An injury risk but definitely a short term hold.
Burr - Strong cow - Minutes a concern but 30-35s will see him put on 80-120k.
HLF
Morgan - The performances aren't pretty but his scoring has been great for the price point. Won't be a season long keeper. 35s has him peaking in 15k and 45s show another 60-70k to be made. Hopefully gets a few more big scores.
Brown - Strong cow - A 25 average has him peak in 60k which would be great if we didn't have to play him. I don't love HLF roulette but we are still 2/3 (a 28 over 30 is a draw in my eyes so really 3/3).
Keighran - I don't want to play him but is doing his job as a cash cow. A 25 average has him peak in 30k. Worth hanging onto for the chance he gets another score to kickstart that. Surely with goalkicking this is his floor.
CTR
Nikora - Strong cow making good coin who could be a keeper if Graham replaces Capewell.
Bird - Strong cow making good coin
WFB
Edwards - Unpopular opinion time - Massive under performing middie. If his next three rounds average 35 he bottoms out at 460k and if he averages 40s he bottoms out at 480k. Think this is the last week you can trade him before you just hope he comes good eventually in my eyes..... A 56 BE is achievable. I have him on my own team and will probably keep him and hope the mass rage trade out produces a banner.
CNK - Good cash cow and will ride his big score for a few more weeks
Burns - Another unpopular opinion time. I personally see him as having more cash in him(100k+) and with our weak wfb a good looping option in the interim. Also plays the first bye which his money making days should coincide with. I'd keep him with a 4 week injury.
Ravalawa - Making cash money. Picking the right time to trade will be hard but there's more money here (80-100k minimum). Unless the Lomax replacing rumours are true.......
Sivo - Making cash money. Hopefully makes a few more big scores to get cash quick and then get out
Trade Plans
We had planned to bring in Tedesco and Bateman this week with our 225k bank (https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t932-rein-debate-part-2#276909) and I think that's a good move still. Based on my list I'd cut Lane and Mahoney but that's because I have some weird misguided faith in Edwards....... Regardless after more games and some injury news I'd still like to hear the thoughts of the forum so list any ideas ahead of Tuesday night and I'll do the usual cut/keep poll.
So 722 points probably wasn't where we saw this going after a strong opening 2 rounds but like most this was an awful round for the team. This puts us at 1,894th overall, 40th in the FOG and still clinging onto 2nd in the celebrity though we moved back to the pack this week.
Community Trades and Decisions
A bit of a mixed bag this week with Tolman (52 +15k) and Capewell (39 +12k) leaving our squad for Bird (37 +52k) and Rein (55 + 21k) so while we only gained a point it did significantly increase our cash generation. I'd put these down as good trades with a hint of sideways.
Keighran was outscored by Brown but 2 points isn't worth being too upset about so our half roulette game is still going strong.
Captain Fifita (46) was underwhelming but it could have been a lot worse as we will see in what will be my longest section of this report later...... but first.
The STUDS
The week looked off to a good start with CNK belting out a team high 71. Sivo went one better on our EMGs with his 75 to start generating fat stacks of cash and after that we didn't have a lot to write home about.
Honorable mentions to Taupau(56), a one half wonder Garner(47), Murray(56), Nikora (41) and Rein(55) who salvaged what could have been a very poor score.
Also full credit to our cash generators Bird (37), Morgan (43), Lawrie (36), Brown (30), Keighran (28), Ravalawa (35) and the almost traded Burr (45) that will fund future upgrades
The Duds
This is going to be painful reading but stick with me:
- Burns ( - Suffered a hamstring/ankle injury within 25 minutes to halt what has been a strong player. With news of his injury being 4 weeks long decisions on how much value trading/holding him is (cash is in the tank/loophole potential)
- Edwards (12) - I only watched the highlights and it was painful enough. Hasn't had a dry track yet and the panthers are yet to click but this hurt. After this week he is averaging less than Sivo, Rava and Garrick.
- Arrow (29) - Now we are getting really inconsistent scores. This brings his average to 52 which is fine but these low scores hurt none the less.
- Mahoney (31) - A week with no attacking stats showed us Mahoneys floor which may limit any future price rises
- Lane (34) - A down week. Still a better headache than Gillet as he at least hit his BE
- Macca (46) - He's just not doing quite enough to give me confidence. This pick wanted a floor of 50+ and
- Fifita (46) - A captain below 50 isn't what you want so he makes this list
Ranta's Concern
Normally at this point I'd like to see the team coming together with points increasing, most middies that aren't making the leap gone, cash being nicely generated and guns performing respectably with an eye to ease off trades in the next round or two. Maybe round 4 will show that my concerns are unwarranted and that this was just a really bad round but hey gotta go with recency bias. Although I do agree with @GreenMachine this was a round for the casuals (viable picks but the big scores were on guys with high BE's). I've done a deep dive on our team and classified them below. If you disagree leave a reply but want to get some discussion going on the team as a whole.
Italics = I don't love the pick but we have bigger issues
Underlined = On my moving soon list
Normal = Happy
HOK
McCollough - Underperforming middie - He is what we paid for. He is providing good consistent scores but has been underwhelming relative to expectations. Provides good depth.
Mahoney - Close to peaked middie - Has raised 70k. Has 20k more in him if he averages 40.
Rein - King Cash Cow is back. Probably our most reliable hooker until Peats returns. Should have good money and scores.
FRF
Fifita - Keeper
Taupau - Keeper
Lawrie - Strong Cow - Still got 80 -100k in the next three weeks with scores of 35-40
2RF
Arrow - Keeper(probably) - An average of 52 is just below keeper level and 29 isn't his usual. Concerning floor but not our biggest problem right now.
Murray - Performing Middie - Loving the consistency. Not sold he is a keeper with tries boosting his scores but we have the time to find out and he can play his way to this role over time.
Lane - Close to peaked middie - Has raised 22k. Has 20k more in him if he averages 45. Needs a big score to generate cash again.
Garner - Strong cow - 35s will see him put on a minimum of 65k. An injury risk but definitely a short term hold.
Burr - Strong cow - Minutes a concern but 30-35s will see him put on 80-120k.
HLF
Morgan - The performances aren't pretty but his scoring has been great for the price point. Won't be a season long keeper. 35s has him peaking in 15k and 45s show another 60-70k to be made. Hopefully gets a few more big scores.
Brown - Strong cow - A 25 average has him peak in 60k which would be great if we didn't have to play him. I don't love HLF roulette but we are still 2/3 (a 28 over 30 is a draw in my eyes so really 3/3).
Keighran - I don't want to play him but is doing his job as a cash cow. A 25 average has him peak in 30k. Worth hanging onto for the chance he gets another score to kickstart that. Surely with goalkicking this is his floor.
CTR
Nikora - Strong cow making good coin who could be a keeper if Graham replaces Capewell.
Bird - Strong cow making good coin
WFB
Edwards - Unpopular opinion time - Massive under performing middie. If his next three rounds average 35 he bottoms out at 460k and if he averages 40s he bottoms out at 480k. Think this is the last week you can trade him before you just hope he comes good eventually in my eyes..... A 56 BE is achievable. I have him on my own team and will probably keep him and hope the mass rage trade out produces a banner.
CNK - Good cash cow and will ride his big score for a few more weeks
Burns - Another unpopular opinion time. I personally see him as having more cash in him(100k+) and with our weak wfb a good looping option in the interim. Also plays the first bye which his money making days should coincide with. I'd keep him with a 4 week injury.
Ravalawa - Making cash money. Picking the right time to trade will be hard but there's more money here (80-100k minimum). Unless the Lomax replacing rumours are true.......
Sivo - Making cash money. Hopefully makes a few more big scores to get cash quick and then get out
Trade Plans
We had planned to bring in Tedesco and Bateman this week with our 225k bank (https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t932-rein-debate-part-2#276909) and I think that's a good move still. Based on my list I'd cut Lane and Mahoney but that's because I have some weird misguided faith in Edwards....... Regardless after more games and some injury news I'd still like to hear the thoughts of the forum so list any ideas ahead of Tuesday night and I'll do the usual cut/keep poll.
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Once again, nice write up mate - cheers.
I don't have much to add mate, cause after thinking through the options I agree with you on both trades.
With Burns out, Teddy becomes a must trade in this week as I dont think we can put faith in Sivo/Rava roulette and Burns doesn't permit the looping of them for the next couple weeks anyway.
So trade in 1 = Teddy.
On the other hand Burns does provide the ability to take a free look at Bird at C for the next two weeks, and this week I believe we could also take a look at Burr too (sorry haven't played around with that too much, but it does look like there is value in holding Burns for the loop for a couple weeks anyway.
Trade in 2 I think we have to go Bateman. We might not be getting value (although at this stage it does look like it still). The guy looks electric and might even score better overall on the edge than in the middle due to attacking stats. Eitherway, he 100% looks like C1 this year and plays 12, so I reckon we should get him
Therefore its a matter of who to trade out. I think its out of Macca, Mahoney, and Lane due to feeling we are forced to keep Edwards....
From what I have seen of Mahoney, I think we got lucky. His first two rounds are probably not the norm, and this last one, probably was. I see him as a 35 point average guy. So for me he is trade out 1.
Macca while not great, is still putting out decent enough scores. He's getting the full 80, and so I reckon we can afford to hold him and perhaps even hope he gets a few extra points per week. Gotta feeling he could be in for a 60 with all the tackling he'll have to do v the Chooks Thursday.
So that leaves Lane, who I was never particularly big on anyway. 45 average 45 BE, and I reckon 45 about his average. So using him to upgrade to Bateman sounds decent.
TLDR: I agree
Mahoney to Teddy
Lane to Bateman
EDIT - We are short by $7k on those trades aren't we??.....
I don't have much to add mate, cause after thinking through the options I agree with you on both trades.
With Burns out, Teddy becomes a must trade in this week as I dont think we can put faith in Sivo/Rava roulette and Burns doesn't permit the looping of them for the next couple weeks anyway.
So trade in 1 = Teddy.
On the other hand Burns does provide the ability to take a free look at Bird at C for the next two weeks, and this week I believe we could also take a look at Burr too (sorry haven't played around with that too much, but it does look like there is value in holding Burns for the loop for a couple weeks anyway.
Trade in 2 I think we have to go Bateman. We might not be getting value (although at this stage it does look like it still). The guy looks electric and might even score better overall on the edge than in the middle due to attacking stats. Eitherway, he 100% looks like C1 this year and plays 12, so I reckon we should get him
Therefore its a matter of who to trade out. I think its out of Macca, Mahoney, and Lane due to feeling we are forced to keep Edwards....
From what I have seen of Mahoney, I think we got lucky. His first two rounds are probably not the norm, and this last one, probably was. I see him as a 35 point average guy. So for me he is trade out 1.
Macca while not great, is still putting out decent enough scores. He's getting the full 80, and so I reckon we can afford to hold him and perhaps even hope he gets a few extra points per week. Gotta feeling he could be in for a 60 with all the tackling he'll have to do v the Chooks Thursday.
So that leaves Lane, who I was never particularly big on anyway. 45 average 45 BE, and I reckon 45 about his average. So using him to upgrade to Bateman sounds decent.
TLDR: I agree
Mahoney to Teddy
Lane to Bateman
EDIT - We are short by $7k on those trades aren't we??.....
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Great summary again.
If we are short on those 2 trades, bringing in Ponga is a serious option instead of Teddy, if named at fullback this week. He was really consistent at Fullback last season. His dual status is great to cover the halves as well, especially if looping Burns at fullback, the ability to move Ponga around really helps loop potential. Use him as a half when we need him there and as a WFB when we need him there instead.
If we are short on those 2 trades, bringing in Ponga is a serious option instead of Teddy, if named at fullback this week. He was really consistent at Fullback last season. His dual status is great to cover the halves as well, especially if looping Burns at fullback, the ability to move Ponga around really helps loop potential. Use him as a half when we need him there and as a WFB when we need him there instead.