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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:38 pm

    mattnz wrote:Seriously looking at skipping Bird, to get 2 guys in that give my team the balance it needs, covering both WFB and HLF with solid options.

    Leaves me with no weaknesses, vs having Bird as a player I still won't trust to play every week and would just be an expensive cashie, while having to play halves roulette each week.

    At CTR I already have the best 2 players in the game in Bateman and Nikora anyway, so Bird is surplus to requirements. Not sure Bird is worth the 2 trades to get him in and out of the team by Origin when I would need to trade out another money maker to get him in anyway.

    Why would you need to off Bird by origin? No chance of replacing Roberts, Mitchell, JAC, Teddy or TommyT

    Besides missing round 12 he’ll be gold around that time with Oates, Roberts and Milf our and possibly being rested
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    Post by Buramada Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:41 pm

    Is this sideways or brilliant ---

    Gillett to Ferguson
    Holland to Bird

    or maybe just leave off the second trade. I don't mind waiting for Sivo and Ravalava to make a big score in my 18-21 but I dont want them stinking up my score
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    Post by 18th_Man Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:47 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    I think the switch to the left would make me very hesitant to sell Rava, because Lafai is much better at getting ball to his winger than Aitken and the Dragons seemed a one trick pony going left in attack.
    I agree RE Lafai distribution however I'm yet to see where this news came from?

    Last weeks team list had no difference to this week.

    2. Jordan Pereira
    3. Euan Aitken
    4. Timoteo Lafai
    5. Mikaele Ravalawa

    And there was no hint from Macgregor that he was changing things up mid week on 360.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:52 pm

    18th_Man wrote:
    I agree RE Lafai distribution however I'm yet to see where this news came from?

    Last weeks team list had no difference to this week.

    2. Jordan Pereira
    3. Euan Aitken
    4. Timoteo Lafai
    5. Mikaele Ravalawa

    And there was no hint from Macgregor that he was changing things up mid week on 360.

    I agree. No substance to it as far as I'm aware. You don't break up a successful side to fix an unsuccessful one. Who knows what Mary will do but think Lawrie will go great guns.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:53 pm

    18th_Man wrote:
    I agree RE Lafai distribution however I'm yet to see where this news came from?

    Last weeks team list had no difference to this week.

    2. Jordan Pereira
    3. Euan Aitken
    4. Timoteo Lafai
    5. Mikaele Ravalawa

    And there was no hint from Macgregor that he was changing things up mid week on 360.

    Yeah somebody posted on here earlier about it but even noted the source itself was not reputable. That's why I was asking if anybody else had heard such a thing. My thoughts are the same, Mary made no mention of a shakeup on 360 and why would he mess with the left edge, which was the only thing that didn't break down after halftime against the bunnies.
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    Post by mattnz Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:53 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:

    Why would you need to off Bird by origin? No chance of replacing Roberts, Mitchell, JAC, Teddy or TommyT

    Besides missing round 12 he’ll be gold around that time with Oates, Roberts and Milf our and possibly being rested

    In my team he is a short term cow, not a keeper. Want guys on the field in round 12 so have opted for CNK instead, which allows me to move Hughes into the halves.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:58 pm

    18th_Man wrote:
    I agree RE Lafai distribution however I'm yet to see where this news came from?

    Last weeks team list had no difference to this week.

    2. Jordan Pereira
    3. Euan Aitken
    4. Timoteo Lafai
    5. Mikaele Ravalawa

    And there was no hint from Macgregor that he was changing things up mid week on 360.


    For what it's worth, there was big talk about how leaky that defence was on the right. Perhaps Pereira will help with defensive comms? And maybe Rava next to Lafai will be good for him defensively? Just a thought though
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:02 pm

    Any thoughts on this potentially ballsy trade/calculated risk?

    Go into it in more in this thread and don't want to clog this up given it's TLT
    Would appreciate thoughts or comments on it or anything else

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t783p20-trials-and-tribulations-of-a-nrl-fantasy-coach-fantasy-hookers-2019-round-2-results-update-130th-overall#274756
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:02 pm

    I have very little confidence that Rava and Sivo won't be late scratchings for Lomax and Gennings, but we'll see. At least Dragons up first.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:02 pm

    Rapture_NRL wrote:


    For what it's worth, there was big talk about how leaky that defence was on the right. Perhaps Pereira will help with defensive comms? And maybe Rava next to Lafai will be good for him defensively? Just a thought though

    Most of the defensive issues arose once Host was off the field. We can all bag him out as a terrible fantasy pick and yes he missed 5 tackles, but Burns and Graham only started wrecking havoc once he was subbed and I think simply playing him for longer on that edge would sure up their defence.

    Just my thoughts though, who knows what Mary is thinking.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:07 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    Most of the defensive issues arose once Host was off the field. We can all bag him out as a terrible fantasy pick and yes he missed 5 tackles, but Burns and Graham only started wrecking havoc once he was subbed and I think simply playing him for longer on that edge would sure up their defence.

    Just my thoughts though, who knows what Mary is thinking.


    I agree. He reads the game well and was always in the right place. Unfortunately, that's not how fantasy works haha
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 pm

    Boozecluez wrote:Any thoughts on this potentially ballsy trade/calculated risk?

    Go into it in more in this thread and don't want to clog this up given it's TLT
    Would appreciate thoughts or comments on it or anything else

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t783p20-trials-and-tribulations-of-a-nrl-fantasy-coach-fantasy-hookers-2019-round-2-results-update-130th-overall#274756

    I really like Asiata as a player and think he's well underrated in real life, but not sure he gets the extrra minutes you're looking for with Tolo out. Cooper & Hess can play 80, they still have Scott, McLean and Maguire and the last two at least will probably spend more time on the field now rather than Asiata. Just my opinion... I'm not Paul Green.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:14 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    I really like Asiata as a player and think he's well underrated in real life, but not sure he gets the extrra minutes you're looking for with Tolo out. Cooper & Hess can play 80, they still have Scott, McLean and Maguire and the last two at least will probably spend more time on the field now rather than Asiata. Just my opinion... I'm not Paul Green.

    Thats my initial thoughts too, gambling on minutes increase can be the falldown of us sometimes as we analyse every small detail and look for every tangible upgrade haha
    He was the best player i could put up for comparison but it kinda answers itself the more I look at it on merit.
    Thanks Rhino
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:19 pm

    As much as I want to say I think Holland will come good... what if he doesn’t. Bird is currently 52 points. Now I know that is not sustainable but he is yet to score and has one of the best finishes outside of him. Plus that is the Broncos go to edge. I admit I was skeptical pre season but form is only willing my hand and I would much prefer a player in a team that will see a lot more tries than a team that won’t while gaining cash in the bank and reaping that cash generation. Holland was a POD-ish pick and it hasn’t paid off, would love to keep the faith but there a more pros for Bird and cons for Holland. Not sure on a second trade this week. Capewell was shut off by a move to the wing and still a capable scorer. Rava and Sivo are on a knifes edge but not much if anything is tingling my friz. Few players on the radar which will come into consideration over the following weeks. Sivo getting more involved each week so downgrade for Rava is on the cards. Edwards will come good, he’ll score 45+ this week and Hughes is just trotting along nicely, he is in for a big one sooner rather than later.

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    Post by Shumway Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:24 pm

    Like quite a few others, considering... to Bird or not to Bird. Still so important to make the money at this stage, so I think I need to bring him in.

    1) Tatola to Bird
    2) Kahu to Bird (leaves me so thin at WFB)
    3) Host to Bird
    4) no trades this week

    Thinking option 1 and just 1 trade this week.

    And a separate question given option 2, are there any compelling WFB at all this season? I have CNK, Burns, Rava, Kahu and Garrick. Is there anyone at all that I should be targeting at WFB?

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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:30 pm

    Not sure if mentioned - knight and Lisone both suspended for two matches
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:32 pm

    Shumway wrote:Like quite a few others, considering... to Bird or not to Bird. Still so important to make the money at this stage, so I think I need to bring him in.

    1) Tatola to Bird
    2) Kahu to Bird (leaves me so thin at WFB)
    3) Host to Bird
    4) no trades this week

    Thinking option 1 and just 1 trade this week.

    And a separate question given option 2, are there any compelling WFB at all this season? I have CNK, Burns, Rava, Kahu and Garrick. Is there anyone at all that I should be targeting at WFB?


    WFB.. Hard not to see the top three ultimately being Ted, TTrbo and Ponga (after he's either moved to fb or Knights have learnt to use him at 5/8th, with possibly RTS breaking in there. Fergo will also be up there, maybe Oates. The likes of CNK, Burns, Guth might end up a tier slightly below but are doing fine for their price just now.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:44 pm

    Does the Knight news gives extras to Tatola?
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:52 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    WFB.. Hard not to see the top three ultimately being Ted, TTrbo and Ponga (after he's either moved to fb or Knights have learnt to use him at 5/8th, with possibly RTS breaking in there. Fergo will also be up there, maybe Oates. The likes of CNK, Burns, Guth might end up a tier slightly below but are doing fine for their price just now.

    That's true, though you get by with say a CNK/Hughes/Burns/Guth but you wouldn't upgrade to a full priced T/Trbo/RTS unless the rest of your team is sorted
    To me that is probably one of my last 'luxury' trades as chances are that the second tier are mid 40's where the guns are 5-10pts increase (at best) but do have that higher ceiling.
    All comes down to how the rest of the season and how fast your team comes together, but I could live with say a WFB Tedesco/CNK/Edwards even after origin if it means all your other team is stacked.

    Anyways we may get lucky where Ponga/Tedesco are bleeding cash so you may get your dream WFB sooner than later

    I am old school so struggle with the Oates/Fergo picks haha
    Even Nofa/Rapana/Mansour/Mbye/VuniValu/CWalker can potentially nab that 3rd spot too
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    Post by GreenMachine Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:01 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:As much as I want to say I think Holland will come good... what if he doesn’t. Bird is currently 52 points. Now I know that is not sustainable but he is yet to score and has one of the best finishes outside of him. Plus that is the Broncos go to edge. I admit I was skeptical pre season but form is only willing my hand and I would much prefer a player in a team that will see a lot more tries than a team that won’t while gaining cash in the bank and reaping that cash generation. Holland was a POD-ish pick and it hasn’t paid off, would love to keep the faith but there a more pros for Bird and cons for Holland. Not sure on a second trade this week. Capewell was shut off by a move to the wing and still a capable scorer. Rava and Sivo are on a knifes edge but not much if anything is tingling my friz. Few players on the radar which will come into consideration over the following weeks. Sivo getting more involved each week so downgrade for Rava is on the cards. Edwards will come good, he’ll score 45+ this week and Hughes is just trotting along nicely, he is in for a big one sooner rather than later.

    Cook
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    Morgan Brown
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    CNK Edwards Hughes

    Mahoney Garner Capewell Bird
    Keighran Sele Ravalawa Sivo

    111K itb.
    Holland to Bird is a no brainer for mine. Wish I had it that easy because I too was opposed to Bird pre season but need to give up now as I like free money (with a dash of points) this early in the season.

    It’s much harder choice for those like me with Capewell as the move feels wrong but I can’t see another outlet

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