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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 24 - We're back baby!

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    Post by Camo123 Thu May 28, 2020 9:40 am

    Pookus McFly wrote:My trades would be so easy but for one thing.
    Out: Fifita, Stimson, Williams, Knight
    In: Taumalolo, Matterson, Grant, Fogarty

    The one thing which is bugging me is Horse. He is a potential FRF keeper for just $539 and choosing him over Matterson would leave me with near $250k to slot Cleary straight into my team when he returns. But I am just so sold on Matterson and surely a gun in the hand is worth two in the bush?

    If Horse hadn’t got that try save in R2 he would have scored 42 and then nobody would be as keen on him. Also why did he get 62 minutes in R1 and only 50 in R2? I remember a HIA being involved. He found 17 points in attacking stats in R1 but only 1 in R2. The waters are murkier with Horse than people want to believe.

    Tl:dr- Matterson V Horse: definite gun vs maybe gun + cash

    According to MTB's interchange timeline, Horse came on for Tapine HIA in R2 but I don't know if it affected rotations massively as he'd been off for 27 mins

    Something that interests me re Horse is that if Papalii is allowed to play in QLD with anti-vax stance, but they don't play QLD team away from home until R12

    Probably going to still take Twal as that bench looks quite weak
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu May 28, 2020 9:40 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:With the shorter season does everyone think we still have the ability to milk our cows dry or will we have to cash in a little earlier than wanting to?

    Visa Versa - Do we have the chance to "wait" for a gun to fall in price. With the shorter season we may be waiting until the last few games if you dont jump on early enough.

    I think it's going to be very hard to make a solid plan. There may be a situation where you have to jump on a gun due to their ceiling(Tedesco) before your cash cows are ready. This might mean leaving 20-30k on a table a few times
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    Post by Goodnight Kiwi Thu May 28, 2020 9:45 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    That should work, but will be a very short turn around to swap Guler and Cleary if you don't like Rudolf's score

    Yeah understand. Thanks (and to Matt too).

    Fizzing for the weekend. Will be watching as many games as possible! Surely there will be no reason to miss it Cheers Drunk Drunk 2

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    Post by Shady2K Thu May 28, 2020 9:45 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Great post. I would also like some enlightenment as I am looking at both Matterson and Horse but the cheaper plus Cleary sounds good to me.

    I'm grabbing Horse. Was keen on Matterson as well, but also getting Twal instead. With a BE of 54, Matto's price should barely change this week if he hits a normal score and you can pick him up next. Even if he does hit his 70/80 big game he'll only go up 20-30k - which is a lower probability. Prefer Twal at starting lock, likely to play 60+ minutes and at a 1ppm will hit strong scores

    Horse will go up 40k~ if he hits a 50, and his potential as a cut price keeper is appealing
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    Post by Guest Thu May 28, 2020 9:50 am

    mattnz wrote:
    Cut price guns will be the key to this season I think. Missing horse if he does become cut price keeper will put you behind.

    On the flip side, punting on cut price gun/keepers that dont work out also puts you behind
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    Post by Ozymandias Thu May 28, 2020 9:51 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    I’m working on other ways now too to not have to. There has to be a way I can do something else without having to just play 16.

    .... is that Shakespeare? Smile
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu May 28, 2020 9:51 am

    Shady2K wrote:

    I'm grabbing Horse. Was keen on Matterson as well, but also getting Twal instead. With a BE of 54, Matto's price should barely change this week if he hits a normal score and you can pick him up next. Even if he does hit his 70/80 big game he'll only go up 20-30k - which is a lower probability. Prefer Twal at starting lock, likely to play 60+ minutes and at a 1ppm will hit strong scores

    Horse will go up 40k~ if he hits a 50, and his potential as a cut price keeper is appealing

    Only a 40K difference in Twal and Matterson and Twal has played prop his whole career. Who knows how long Madge sticks with this.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu May 28, 2020 9:52 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:With the shorter season does everyone think we still have the ability to milk our cows dry or will we have to cash in a little earlier than wanting to?

    Visa Versa - Do we have the chance to "wait" for a gun to fall in price. With the shorter season we may be waiting until the last few games if you dont jump on early enough.

    One of the key creators of falling guns is players getting limited minutes over origin. Without that we are more reliant on waiting for an injury/HIA to strike to get the price down.

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    Post by danaconda86 Thu May 28, 2020 9:55 am

    A question for draft, who scores highest this week:
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    Post by Chewie Thu May 28, 2020 9:56 am

    Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:If you had the extra cash to bring in teddy over turbo this week, would you?

    definitely Teddy over Turbo.
    Teddy is still dropping money though, so it may be better to wait a week.
    I'm hesitant to pick up Turbo, I'd like to see him have some solid games without limping around
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    Post by Camo123 Thu May 28, 2020 9:57 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Only a 40K difference in Twal and Matterson and Twal has played prop his whole career. Who knows how long Madge sticks with this.

    Lock and prop play similarly for most teams (except for those with true ball playing locks)

    I'm leaning Twal over Matterson because there's other 2RFs I prefer over Matterson (Tevaga after injury return, Bateman, Jurbo) vs less FRFs I prefer over Twal
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu May 28, 2020 9:57 am

    Chewie wrote:

    definitely Teddy over Turbo.
    Teddy is still dropping money though, so it may be better to wait a week.
    I'm hesitant to pick up Turbo, I'd like to see him have some solid games without limping around

    Not playing at Brookvale has to be good for Turbo
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu May 28, 2020 9:59 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Lock and prop play similarly for most teams (except for those with true ball playing locks)

    I'm leaning Twal over Matterson because there's other 2RFs I prefer over Matterson (Tevaga after injury return, Bateman, Jurbo) vs less FRFs I prefer over Twal

    Also gotta take into account final 17 make up. I imagine most will want at least 2 hookers on the bench, so rounding out those other 2 spots with a half or second rower isn't a big deal
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu May 28, 2020 9:59 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    One of the key creators of falling guns is players getting limited minutes over origin. Without that we are more reliant on waiting for an injury/HIA to strike to get the price down.


    Pretty much meaning we should jump on guns now before they go up in cash because it is very unlikely they fall.

    Matterson, Twal, TURBO!!, Cleary(when he's back), Teddy
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    Post by Shady2K Thu May 28, 2020 9:59 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Only a 40K difference in Twal and Matterson and Twal has played prop his whole career. Who knows how long Madge sticks with this.

    Main reason for me is the BE difference. Twal with a 33 BE will go up 30k~ if he hits a 60 and end up basically the same price as Matto who has a 54 BE, same as his average

    Also true that he may not stay at lock, but if he does then he can get DPP down the track.. which helps further
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    Post by Aardvark Thu May 28, 2020 10:00 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    One of the key creators of falling guns is players getting limited minutes over origin. Without that we are more reliant on waiting for an injury/HIA to strike to get the price down.



    Was thinking about this last night as well as the lack this year of 4-5 week cheapies who come in around Origin/Bye rounds make a few $$ and allow you to jump from fully milked cows to guns........it's going to be tough
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    Post by Guest Thu May 28, 2020 10:00 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Lock and prop play similarly for most teams (except for those with true ball playing locks)

    I'm leaning Twal over Matterson because there's other 2RFs I prefer over Matterson (Tevaga after injury return, Bateman, Jurbo) vs less FRFs I prefer over Twal

    I'm leaning the same way. The 40k dif also helps me with a preferred trade in. I'll be flip flopping until lock out
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    Post by Guest Thu May 28, 2020 10:01 am

    I'm still going to play Kennedy and have Willame in 18 - 21.
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    Post by zaggo1 Thu May 28, 2020 10:08 am

    I feel I'm in the same boat as a lot of people here with regards to hanging on to J. Williams or another week to see if he's as much of a flog as he seems, or chucking him to bring in Capewell.

    Shiba + Williame definitely isn't a great CTR pairing but surely tossing a starting fairly cheap lock after 2 dud games is a bit premature...?
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    Post by Loomer Thu May 28, 2020 10:12 am

    zaggo1 wrote:I feel I'm in the same boat as a lot of people here with regards to hanging on to J. Williams or another week to see if he's as much of a flog as he seems, or chucking him to bring in Capewell.

    Shiba + Williame definitely isn't a great CTR pairing but surely tossing a starting fairly cheap lock after 2 dud games is a bit premature...?

    I talked up how he wasn't a great pick and still started with him. Sold him and Stimson Rd2 beginning of week then reversed last minute.
    If Aubo wasn't out I may have kept him as not massive BE but had no choice as only 1 of 3 I'm willing to sell and needed Lolo and Grant as well

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