2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 4

lukeaye wrote:@SI

You left out Soward?

Why is niko up in the air?

And moltz strong no? Due to injury?

@krump he was decent 2 years ago, was hot and cold last year. has troubles off field. His price does make him akward though.

I accidentally missed Soward.  Do you think he is going to increase his 30 average dramatically?  He's an injury risk as well.  Was a gun 4 or 5 years ago at the Dragons purely due to his kick metres from memory.  Bennett had them playing dour footy and Soward would stand a mile behind the pack and roost the footy 10 times a game for MASSIVE kick metres.  Scored some nice runaway tries as well, but injury and age I can't see him getting back to that.

Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Anyone know how to specifically order the teams on the draft league?

I doubt that you'd be able to. Also seems a little bit suss wanting to?

Krump wrote:
If your not making money out of your 17-25 your not going to stay in contention for long though. PGC posted earlier today or yesterday that all of his early trades last year were aimed at generating cash.

Yeah true that but I wasted a lot of trades last year trading out dud cows like Nabuli and Lee that made little money and there's no real good mid-range players that stand out like Ryan James, Glenn Stewart or Soliola from last year. Those guys were cheap, undervalued and I think at least the first two were guaranteed starters from the pre-season.
This year there's too many question marks over a lot of the potential money makers in my opinion. I'm just saying if guys like Benry and Chee-Kam don't make the team then a lot of people could be struggling to find someone good to generate that cash and a lot of those 200k mid-rangers are risky if they don't get the minutes. Oh well I guess sometimes you just got to roll the dice.

Johnny B Goode wrote:

Krump wrote:
If your not making money out of your 17-25 your not going to stay in contention for long though. PGC posted earlier today or yesterday that all of his early trades last year were aimed at generating cash.

Yeah true that but I wasted a lot of trades last year trading out dud cows like Nabuli and Lee that made little money and there's no real good mid-range players that stand out like Ryan James, Glenn Stewart or Soliola from last year. Those guys were cheap, undervalued and I think at least the first two were guaranteed starters from the pre-season.  
This year there's too many question marks over a lot of the potential money makers in my opinion. I'm just saying if guys like Benry and Chee-Kam don't make the team then a lot of people could be struggling to find someone good to generate that cash and a lot of those 200k mid-rangers are risky if they don't get the minutes. Oh well I guess sometimes you just got to roll the dice.

Yep.  In saying that, there does seem to be more decent mid rangers, and rookies who are actually in the mix at starting round 1, then in previous years.  So may just be a case of luck in picking the right ones that determines everyone's seasons this year.

Also with PGC's team.  I think it was Soylent maybe (apologies to whoever did if I'm wrong about it being Soylent) pick up on the fact that only 2 of PGC's final team were in his Round 1 team?

SI wrote:
Could you extend it to $340k?  Doesn't matter either way as there are quite a few at least on a par with Pauli below $300 k I reckon.  Below 300k I would look at Grant/RGC/Ava as being able to increase their averages this year.  If you want a POD with potential then I would go Ava, he is a worker who is starting to find himself in attack.

If you get it up to 340k then you will have the likes of Blair and Hannant (neither may increase their average much though) Sue/Sims/Heighno who could all potentially increase points this year.

Just personally I would be taking a risk on Auv'a to give you the extra coin.

The trouble is if you asked me to choose between Auva'a + Blair/Hannat or Fergusson/Mansour/Gordon + Pauli I'd choose the later, but maybe that's why I never crack the top 1,000.

Krump wrote:
I doubt that you'd be able to. Also seems a little bit suss wanting to?

We do a challenge in our mates league to see who gets first round pick all the way to last pick. Makes draft day a little more exciting. Plus I have been the league commisioner for the last two years and I have received 1st pick each time. So I don't know if its random or if its commissioner first and random after that.

SI wrote:Also with PGC's team.  I think it was Soylent maybe (apologies to whoever did if I'm wrong about it being Soylent) pick up on the fact that only 2 of PGC's final team were in his Round 1 team?

This really amazed me so I just went back for a look. While he only had a couple who stayed he did have 7 players I would have called keepers at that point or who ended up being keepers.
Farah, Fifita, Gallen, Parker, ARey, Soliola, Tedesco.

Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:


We do a challenge in our mates league to see who gets first round pick all the way to last pick. Makes draft day a little more exciting. Plus I have been the league commisioner for the last two years and I have received 1st pick each time. So I don't know if its random or if its commissioner first and random after that.

I must have a guilty conscience just assuming the worst. Some of the guys on here play ultimate league and from it seems to give more  control than the other platforms so it might be worth a look.

Vestid wrote:

SI wrote:
Could you extend it to $340k?  Doesn't matter either way as there are quite a few at least on a par with Pauli below $300 k I reckon.  Below 300k I would look at Grant/RGC/Ava as being able to increase their averages this year.  If you want a POD with potential then I would go Ava, he is a worker who is starting to find himself in attack.

If you get it up to 340k then you will have the likes of Blair and Hannant (neither may increase their average much though) Sue/Sims/Heighno who could all potentially increase points this year.

Just personally I would be taking a risk on Auv'a to give you the extra coin.

The trouble is if you asked me to choose between Auva'a + Blair/Hannat or Fergusson/Mansour/Gordon + Pauli I'd choose the later, but maybe that's why I never crack the top 1,000.

Fair call, and I never crack the top 1000 either!  Your dilemma does look a little clearer now.  Best bet would be to do the WFB trade to Auvaa and see exactly how much you have left then.  Could it give you someone like Leeson, who a lot of people are talking up, at $357k

SI wrote:
I accidentally missed Soward.  Do you think he is going to increase his 30 average dramatically?  He's an injury risk as well.  Was a gun 4 or 5 years ago at the Dragons purely due to his kick metres from memory.  Bennett had them playing dour footy and Soward would stand a mile behind the pack and roost the footy 10 times a game for MASSIVE kick metres.  Scored some nice runaway tries as well, but injury and age I can't see him getting back to that.

He had some injury affected scores last season so i think he priced quite well? Could be wrong on this. He doesn't have much competition for his spot, and they have a new coach could see something new from him. Pure speculation at this point but just thought at his price tag he could be good value for a starting number 6.

lukeaye wrote:

SI wrote:
I accidentally missed Soward.  Do you think he is going to increase his 30 average dramatically?  He's an injury risk as well.  Was a gun 4 or 5 years ago at the Dragons purely due to his kick metres from memory.  Bennett had them playing dour footy and Soward would stand a mile behind the pack and roost the footy 10 times a game for MASSIVE kick metres.  Scored some nice runaway tries as well, but injury and age I can't see him getting back to that.

He had some injury affected scores last season so i think he priced quite well? Could be wrong on this. He doesn't have much competition for his spot, and they have a new coach could see something new from him. Pure speculation at this point but just thought at his price tag he could be good value for a starting number 6.

At that price yes, he is about the lowest priced proven half who could average over 40 so yeah, very good value if he does what you think he can do.  Hadn't even considered him and may have a look see closer to Round 1.  Currently got JReyn as my mid range half, and that makes me very nervous due to his shit cunted-ness.

A mid ranged half is a mistake imo

You either go 2 guns (with seperate byes if possible) or 1 gun and 3 cash cows. I think a mid range player in another position has a better chance of jumping to gun status (or close enough) then what the halves do.

Break it down to

Mid Halve + Base price 2nd rower(leaving out guys like MCK/Henry who are already in team) v Mid 2nd rower + base halve(leaving out guys like Hasting/Taylr who are already in team)

Soward + ??(no-one stands out) v Tapine + J Niko

Shanbon wrote:A mid ranged half is a mistake imo

You either go 2 guns (with seperate byes if possible) or 1 gun and 3 cash cows. I think a mid range player in another position has a better chance of jumping to gun status (or close enough) then what the halves do.

Break it down to

Mid Halve + Base price 2nd rower(leaving out guys like MCK/Henry who are already in team) v Mid 2nd rower + base halve(leaving out guys like Hasting/Taylr who are already in team)

Soward + ??(no-one stands out) v Tapine + J Niko

Appreciate what your saying but your comment assumes that their are 3 genuine cash cows in the HLF region. For me the HLF's has done quite poorly cash cow wise the last few years. I can only remember Hunt and ARey as two halves that ever did anything from low entry price. I don't know anything about Tapine but is he likely to start? and J niko ppl are mentioning may not get a start either.

Given I have to start 2 players here I would want to start a gun, (I will most likely take a punt on Johnson) + Soward, and sacrifice in either the WFB or CTR position (depending on the value equation).

Of course is there is a genuine cash cow at a lower entry price I would be happy to take them over Soward

Anyone think Maloney might go alright at sharks. Would be kicking goals? and a lot more general play kicking?

Shanbon wrote:A mid ranged half is a mistake imo

You either go 2 guns (with seperate byes if possible) or 1 gun and 3 cash cows. I think a mid range player in another position has a better chance of jumping to gun status (or close enough) then what the halves do.

Break it down to

Mid Halve + Base price 2nd rower(leaving out guys like MCK/Henry who are already in team) v Mid 2nd rower + base halve(leaving out guys like Hasting/Taylr who are already in team)

Soward + ??(no-one stands out) v Tapine + J Niko

My team selection method.
1. Get the best cows available(postion isn't really relevent although I do try to avoid them at hooker).
2. Two reliable captain options.
3. Backfill from there with as many keepers as I can afford.
4. Mid rangers.

Last year I started with ARey, Cronk and Mullen(I think) as I didn't like the available cows at half, this year I'll more than likely have 3 cows there.
Summary: It all comes down to how good you think the cows in any given position will be as to how many keepers I'll have there.

The hardest thing about the start of a season is picking up all of the right cash cows. And even the ones that you may have missed to start with, jumping on board early.

Sometimes you have to sacrifice a bit of points to start to generate enough cash to get a solid final 17.

I remember last season I struggled a lot for the first 12 rounds, but I made good profit and I had good bye planning and my final 17 was complete by the the end of the last bye round.

The last 7-8 weeks I scored 1000+ 5 or 6 times, and the remaining games were just under 1000

there isnt really any cows at half this year other than hastings who should score reasonably.

-everyone will have taylor, he's a must pick, but imo he will be a slow burner.
-jniko wont do anything. realistically pearce will miss 4-6 weeks of nrl.
-??

as its been said you pretty much have to nail all the right NPRs to build cash then fill with keepers.

Soward is actually an interesting option which I hadn't considered. Depending who griffin names in the halves he could turn out to be a handy inclusion in our teams

jstands wrote:The hardest thing about the start of a season is picking up all of the right cash cows. And even the ones that you may have missed to start with, jumping on board early.

Sometimes you have to sacrifice a bit of points to start to generate enough cash to get a solid final 17.

I remember last season I struggled a lot for the first 12 rounds, but I made good profit and I had good bye planning and my final 17 was complete by the the end of the last bye round.

The last 7-8 weeks I scored 1000+ 5 or 6 times, and the remaining games were just under 1000

I seem to remember you destroying me by about 150pts and making the semis's of the Sportal eliminator?