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    Post by mattnz Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:58 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:Tom Burgess has Covid Souths had to return from their pre season camp only just hours into it. All the squad are now getting tested and are isolating.
    The first of many. This is going to be ongoing every week for months.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:04 pm

    https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/12/20/squad-game-broncos-2022-roster-changes-and-best-17/

    NRL Fantasy: Broncos 2022 prices
    Payne Haas: MID, $782,000
    Tyson Gamble: HLF, $614,000
    Adam Reynolds: HLF, $613,000
    Kotoni Staggs: CTR, $600,000
    Jake Turpin: HOK, $596,000
    Patrick Carrigan: MID, $588,000
    Jordan Riki: EDG, $571,000
    Herbie Farnworth: CTR/WFB, $559,000
    Albert Kelly: HLF, $550,000
    Kurt Capewell: EDG, $511,000
    Tesi Niu: WFB/CTR, $468,000
    Corey Jensen: MID, $462,000
    Thomas Flegler: MID, $450,000
    Jamayne Isaako: WFB, $450,000
    Selwyn Cobbo: CTR, $450,000
    Ryan James: MID, $423,000
    Keenan Palasia: EDG, $416,000
    Rhys Kennedy: MID, $400,000
    Brenko Lee: CTR, $400,000
    TC Robati: EDG, $392,000
    Corey Oates: WFB, $379,000
    Kobe Hetherington: MID/HOK, $376,000
    Jordan Pereira: WFB, $327,000
    Cory Paix: HOK/HLF, $323,000
    David Mead: WFB, $318,000
    Xavier Willison: EDG/MID, $240,000
    Billy Walters: HLF, $240,000
    Brendan Piakura: EDG, $240,000
    Ezra Mam: HLF, $220,000
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    Post by mattnz Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:08 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/12/20/squad-game-broncos-2022-roster-changes-and-best-17/

    NRL Fantasy: Broncos 2022 prices
    Payne Haas: MID, $782,000
    Tyson Gamble: HLF, $614,000
    Adam Reynolds: HLF, $613,000
    Kotoni Staggs: CTR, $600,000
    Jake Turpin: HOK, $596,000
    Patrick Carrigan: MID, $588,000
    Jordan Riki: EDG, $571,000
    Herbie Farnworth: CTR/WFB, $559,000
    Albert Kelly: HLF, $550,000
    Kurt Capewell: EDG, $511,000
    Tesi Niu: WFB/CTR, $468,000
    Corey Jensen: MID, $462,000
    Thomas Flegler: MID, $450,000
    Jamayne Isaako: WFB, $450,000
    Selwyn Cobbo: CTR, $450,000
    Ryan James: MID, $423,000
    Keenan Palasia: EDG, $416,000
    Rhys Kennedy: MID, $400,000
    Brenko Lee: CTR, $400,000
    TC Robati: EDG, $392,000
    Corey Oates: WFB, $379,000
    Kobe Hetherington: MID/HOK, $376,000
    Jordan Pereira: WFB, $327,000
    Cory Paix: HOK/HLF, $323,000
    David Mead: WFB, $318,000
    Xavier Willison: EDG/MID, $240,000
    Billy Walters: HLF, $240,000
    Brendan Piakura: EDG, $240,000
    Ezra Mam: HLF, $220,000

    Looks like some decent value there, depending on who starts and gets big minute roles:
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:39 pm


    Doesn't appear to be a consistent magic number when looking at those prices compared to last years averages

    Although Staggs hasn't received any discount for only playing 4 games last year
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    Post by rectangle Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:44 pm

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    not sure if legit, interesting changes if they are!
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    Post by easytiger Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:23 pm

    rectangle wrote: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 92 - Fanatics Anonymous Off Season - Page 8 Image10


    not sure if legit, interesting changes if they are!

    If that's correct, then losing a third of kick metre points will make a fair bit of difference, as will losing a third of TB points.
    Wow!
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    Post by easytiger Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:28 pm

    If you enjoy being drip-fed prices etc, then look away

    If you want it all right now, then read on...

    All the prices....:
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    Post by mattnz Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:40 pm

    I might have set and forget centers for the season, Bird and Aitken if they both get edge spots.
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    Post by Camo123 Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:31 pm

    easytiger wrote:If you enjoy being drip-fed prices etc, then look away

    If you want it all right now, then read on...

    All the prices....:

    Was going to ask if you're a hacker but the prices are just auto-updated on MTB's site scratch
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:35 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    If that's correct, then losing a third of kick metre points will make a fair bit of difference, as will losing a third of TB points.
    Wow!

    Forwards a-go-go

    Trbo would lose 7 points a game with the TBs
    Cleary loses 10 points a game from KM + TB (but all his competition likely to be similarly hit too)

    Will ahver to track down stats for offloads / 6agains etc to see who likely beneficiaries are
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    Post by Camo123 Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:54 pm

    DPPs:
    MID/EDG 19 - Papali'i, Harris, Jackson, Crichton, Barnett, Curran, TPJ, Koloamatangi, Olakau'atu, Elliot, Butcher, Kerr, Chris Smith, Gilbert, Hess, Ford, BMM, Keppie, Fuimaono
    EDG/MID 1 - Willison
    HOK/MID 5 - Brandon Smith, Watson, Cotter, Sione Katoa (Dogs), Hetherington
    MID/HLF 2 - Peachey, Dylan Walker
    HOK/HLF 4 - Hunt, Croker, Paix, Boyd
    EDG/CTR 3 - Aitken, Bird, Tago
    HLF/CTR 5 - Burton, Averillo, Hampton, Keighran, Perham
    HLF/WFB 8 - Doueihi, Hynes, Drinkwater, Brimson, Tracey, Moylan, Taaffe, Will Smith
    CTR/WFB 25 - Manu, Gagai, Rapana, Farnworth, Pompey, Reimis Smith, HTF, Niu, Tuala, Milne, Lemuelu, Cotric, Dom Young, Taulagi, Berry, Stephen Crichton, Suaalii, Mbye, Hymel Hunt, Asi, Talau, Arthars, Allan, Fusitu'a, Koula
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    Post by Camo123 Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:58 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Forwards a-go-go

    Trbo would lose 7 points a game with the TBs
    Cleary loses 10 points a game from KM + TB (but all his competition likely to be similarly hit too)

    Will ahver to track down stats for offloads / 6agains etc to see who likely beneficiaries are

    No idea how they track successful to hand offloads - may be just added on but not stat on NRL website. Not subjective though which helps

    Top offloaders:
    TPJ 54
    Nofo 50
    Paulo 46
    Welch 45
    Lodge 44

    By average:
    TPJ 2.6
    Lodge 2.4
    BMoz (lol) 2.3
    Welch 2.1
    Nofo 2.1
    Ramien 2.1
    Paulo 2.0
    Fifita 2.0

    I don't think 6 agains are listed except for in the play-by-play section of each game
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    Post by easytiger Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:01 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    Was going to ask if you're a hacker but the prices are just auto-updated on MTB's site scratch

    Definitely not


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    Post by easytiger Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:03 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    Doesn't appear to be a consistent magic number when looking at those prices compared to last years averages

    Although Staggs hasn't received any discount for only playing 4 games last year

    I'm assuming the inconsistency is due to the changes to the points scoring system already being priced in
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    Post by Lchy Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:37 pm

    Camo123 wrote:DPPs:
    MID/EDG 19 - Papali'i, Harris, Jackson, Crichton, Barnett, Curran, TPJ, Koloamatangi, Olakau'atu, Elliot, Butcher, Kerr, Chris Smith, Gilbert, Hess, Ford, BMM, Keppie, Fuimaono
    EDG/MID 1 - Willison
    HOK/MID 5 - Brandon Smith, Watson, Cotter, Sione Katoa (Dogs), Hetherington
    MID/HLF 2 - Peachey, Dylan Walker
    HOK/HLF 4 - Hunt, Croker, Paix, Boyd
    EDG/CTR 3 - Aitken, Bird, Tago
    HLF/CTR 5 - Burton, Averillo, Hampton, Keighran, Perham
    HLF/WFB 8 - Doueihi, Hynes, Drinkwater, Brimson, Tracey, Moylan, Taaffe, Will Smith
    CTR/WFB 25 - Manu, Gagai, Rapana, Farnworth, Pompey, Reimis Smith, HTF, Niu, Tuala, Milne, Lemuelu, Cotric, Dom Young, Taulagi, Berry, Stephen Crichton, Suaalii, Mbye, Hymel Hunt, Asi, Talau, Arthars, Allan, Fusitu'a, Koula

    Correct me if i'm wrong but this is just about the same as 2021 right? Feel like guys like Gus/Keaon lose middle status and I'd be shocked if Burton got centre lol
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:41 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    I'm assuming the inconsistency is due to the changes to the points scoring system already being priced in

    yeah, have got things sorted now

    Prices listed here - https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1787-2022-player-prices

    footystatistics also lists the new prices, mtb on top of things (or his code automatically picking up back end changes)
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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:42 pm

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    not sure if legit, interesting changes if they are!
    Wow some big changes. Looks like squad sizes are staying the same.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:45 pm

    Xavier Coates 330k nice. Cobbo with a price bump to 450k is a bummer.
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    Post by The Goat Boys Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:27 pm

    rectangle wrote: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 92 - Fanatics Anonymous Off Season - Page 8 Image10


    not sure if legit, interesting changes if they are!

    If these are legit, the Kick Metre and Tackle Bust changes are massive for Fantasy
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    Post by Pookus McFly Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:10 am

    mattnz wrote:I might have set and forget centers for the season, Bird and Aitken if they both get edge spots.

    I immediately thought the same thing. Second row centres with bread-and-butter tackles are going to be at an even higher premium. People thought centre position sucked before, wait until almost all the “guns” are averaging 30 NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 92 - Fanatics Anonymous Off Season - Page 8 1f602

    Also, these 4 trades being available each round from the halfway point, huge. Being able to milk a whole herd of cows; covering for multiple injuries whilst still improving your team; using a warchest to bring in 4 guns at once. Game changing moves available, and players will really need to work hard at saving trades to be able to make use of such flexibility in the later game. Being low on trades and not being able to benefit from such OP rule changes will see your team quickly left in the dust. Thats a lot of pressure on picking a solid starting team with an unfamiliar scoring system.

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