NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 4 - Leniu is back on the menu

Milchcow wrote:
Just adding to premium CTR chat

Jack Bird priced at 43
Base stats from 4 edge starts last year - 32 tackles and 104 metres. But a whopping average of 4.5 missed tackles a game. If he is going to keep missing those tackles he needs some attacking stats to get himself into value territory. His stats from those games also boosted by high scoring and potentially unreliable Try Save and Turnover Tackle stats. Potential is certainly there if he nails down an edge starting spot. If eh starts with a big game in the first 2 rounds I think a few will be trying to rush him in. Current thoughts for me are that he is a tad below Aitken and Burton though.

L-Jimmy wrote:
Bird and Aitken over Burton - because big minute forwards outscore backs.

Milchcow wrote:Just on Aitken and Burton

Aitken
Priced at 43, his 5 non-injury 2ndrow games have seen an average of 36 tackles and 122 run metres. Couple of missed tackles a game, but that is his BE right there and everything else is a bonus. If he stays 2nd row, is there anything that suggests they aren't sustainable, at least until return of Tohu?
Maybe Vlandys-ball rule changes might slow things down, but that would impact basically every player so don't think it is worse for Aitken.


Burton priced at 48 averages 67 in the halves (old scoring)
(Note in round 16 last year he was named at five-eighth, but played centre, swapping with Tyrone May after kickoff, so ignore that low score when looking at stats)
New scoring takes that down to just under 60 - still pretty good for a 48 price. But that includes 7 tries in 9 games , a line break every game and a try assist about once every 2 games. How much of that can he maintain at the Dogs? Despite their lackluster effort against Cronulla, I believe the Dogs will improve this year - but will it be by enough to keep Burton's scores about 50?
I think he can average over his starting price, but maybe not by heaps so might be OK to watch for a few weeks and jump on later, and just hope he doesn't pump out a century in the early rounds.

ytsb wrote:Is Moylan locked in to Partner Hynes? I don't have a clue, but there's no evidence of Hynes having a good kicking game from what I can tell. Trindall and Hynes seem to split it. Getting a little sus on Hynes.

Mulvy wrote:

There's certainly an argument to wait on Burton, his price shouldn't skyrocket unless he jags a century as you say. How come we are not talking about Bird in the same discussion? (assuming named, Sims replacing Su'a). Cheapest of the lot. Less of an expiration date like the Aitken. The value in these guys lies with being able to pick a genuine underpriced (centre) gun, thereby saving a trade. If Aitken indeed requires a trade it removes a lot of his value unless he makes the cash and scores to justify it. In the limited sample Bird misses more tackles, but Aitken's five games were against bottom eight sides, I'll bet he misses a few more against better sides (although good draw to start the year and all that)

Milchcow wrote:

I do not want to run with Randall as my only hooker.

I do not like Kobe Hetherington or Cory Paix as options, and suspect Jake Simpkin won't get a long enough run in the team. If I don't runa  gun hooker with Randall then IMO Clark is the best of the cheapies. But I'd be getting him to ensure hooker cover rather than a particular keenness to have him in my team

Mulvy wrote:

Trindall trialled fairly poorly. And Moylan's just been wrapped up in cotton wool right? Surely he starts ahead of Trindall. I half watched the trials and Nicho's boot seemed okay anyway didn't it?

mattnz wrote:

I see Burton as most likely to score a 70+ (4 out of 9 games in the halves). If he does that in round 1, there will be a scramble to get him in your side asap.
He is goal kicking and is the only one with a known role for the season with no competition. That is what you need when planning for your CTR to be a keeper for the season.

People talk about Burton going from a strong side to a weak one, but most of the time he was in a weak Penrith team that struggled to win, when starting in the halves without Cleary and often with other key players missing.

L-Jimmy wrote:
Bird and Aitken over Burton - because big minute forwards outscore backs.

mattnz wrote:Turbo and Cleary missed the memo

mattnz wrote:

I see Burton as most likely to score a 70+ (4 out of 9 games in the halves). If he does that in round 1, there will be a scramble to get him in your side asap.
He is goal kicking and is the only one with a known role for the season with no competition. That is what you need when planning for your CTR to be a keeper for the season.

People talk about Burton going from a strong side to a weak one, but most of the time he was in a weak Penrith team that struggled to win, when starting in the halves without Cleary and often with other key players missing.

my tv broke wrote:Can TLT hurry up, i am starting to get the urge to create a squad.

L-Jimmy wrote:



I'm sorry mate, but there's only so many times I can try and explain stastical samples. You do you boo.

Mulvy wrote:

Disagree, has loads of talent. His development was fucked around by Green ruining his confidence by turfing him after one ordinary game or some such. I think he's starting to show what he can do. Has both a good long boot and a good short kick (now that he seems to have reeled in kicking it dead which was a weakness).

The Bludger#2 wrote:
Milf's lazy slob who had one great season. On a mill per year, sat back and laughed at the Broncos.
The Knights don't need him.
If they give him a league-lifeline; then it will be on the bench for minimal minutes or backline cover.
He won't be pushing the Big Red Dog out of the halves any time soon.