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    2016 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 39

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    Post by filthridden Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:19 am

    Just to throw my hat into the ring on the elaborate Cleary claims discussion:

    I've watched a bit of him in the under 20s, watched him in the international u20s.

    I would be surprised if he doesn't play for Australia. Kid has the goods and a good head on his shoulders.

    Will not be a fizzer like Brooks or A-Rey.

    You heard it here first: Nathan Cleary will be leading Australia around the park in a few years time.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:13 am

    filthridden wrote:Just to throw my hat into the ring on the elaborate Cleary claims discussion:

    I've watched a bit of him in the under 20s, watched him in the international u20s.

    I would be surprised if he doesn't play for Australia. Kid has the goods and a good head on his shoulders.

    Will not be a fizzer like Brooks or A-Rey.

    You heard it here first: Nathan Cleary will be leading Australia around the park in a few years time.

    So that's Cleary and Feeney, right?
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:31 am

    775 with Graham, Barba, Aitken and Holland to play.

    Closing in on that top 1000, currently sitting at 1300ish
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    Post by Chucky Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:28 am

    703 with Fifita, Graham, Mbye, Aitken and Barba to play.
    Ranked 448.
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    Post by OnTheLast Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:44 am

    Not as good as chucks but 699 with Graham Mooper Aitken and barba to go currently 1331
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    Post by wolfking Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:59 am

    748 with Fifita, Lowe, Aitken and Barba to go.

    Disappointing game from Parcell. Currently ranked 1680.
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    Post by Finch Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:30 am

    wolfking wrote:748 with Fifita, Lowe, Aitken and Barba to go.

    Disappointing game from Parcell.  Currently ranked 1680.

    Nice score!
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    Post by bluetige Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:30 am

    SI wrote:Scored the Tigers/Rabbits game. I did my count and then went and compared mine with Fantasy, NRLStats, VSDT, Ultimate League, and Ninemsn.

    There were 6 clear tackle breaks in my count:

    04:33 Surgess
    15:07 Surgess
    16:54 Surgess
    25:40 Inglis
    55:43 AReyn
    71:52 Talakai

    I had a debatable 7th TB at 16:54 with Carter potentially laying a hand on him as well with Surgess
    NRL Stats has 7, the rest have 6 bar Fantasy who has 4.

    My count was:

    151 metres (5 or 10 less then most)
    4 tackles (1 more then all)
    3 missed tackles (1 or 2 more then all bar Fantasy who had 3 as well)
    2 offloads (1 more then all)
    6 tackle breaks (as above)
    1 try assist (most had this)
    1 line break assist (VSDT and Ultimate also had this)
    3 kicks defused (1 less then Fantasy)
    10 kick metres (average)
    0 penalties (he had 1 on all sites, I clearly missed it  Embarassed )
    0 errors (all sites)

    All but Fantasy have at least 6 TB's
    All but Fantasy and NRLStats have the Try Assist
    All but Fantasy NRLStats and Ninemsn have the Line Break Assist

    I score him at 45 with the Fantasy sytem.  VSDT had 47.  Ultimate 44.  Fantasy 28.  I do understand they are different scoring systems which is why I added the actual detail of the plays as above.

    The TB's aren't subjective, they are there.  The LBA seemed a sure thing; but they will always argue a Try Assist subjectively.  In my mind Ted took an extra step then he needed to to draw his man before passing to Naiquama and got absolutely SMASHED in doing so-worthy of a try assist I reckon, but again, can be argued.

    Either way I do find it a little strange that Fantasy scored Ted harder then all the other stats I checked when Fantasy in general normally goes the other way; especially when it comes to TB's and TA's, and even more especially with the update king that is Teddy.

    Anyone got the SuperCoach stats?

    Peace out, Detective Softcock Holmes.









    Great work SI, you make a good PI!

    If that were me counting the stats I would have fallen to sleep after 15 min, lol
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    Post by bluetige Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:36 am

    SI wrote:

    Yeah, the kick before a try gets it 99% of the time, but passes is not every time maybe 80 or 90%.  That's the issue with the subjectivity allthough they are alot better at it then when they first introduced it, was a lottery back then.


    99% of the time is about right, Mbye (the 1%) didn't get a TA from his grubber into the in goal last week for the Lichaa try. Deadset was as clear as day but Prozone elected not to award it
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    Post by wolfking Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:44 am

    Finch wrote:

    Nice score!

    Thanks mate!  I'm slowy climbing the rankings.  This week I think the combo of Captain Smith, Munster, Claw, Carty, Lolo and SJ put me in a decent postion.  Wished I played my new purchase Cleary but really wouldn't have taken any of the solid R's I had on anyway.  Wish I played him over Parcell but that was never gonna happen haha.

    Struggling for numbers next week though so will fall I think.
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    Post by Pain Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:48 am

    639 with Fifita Graham barba holland and aitken to come 

    Ranked 200. Hopefully can hold around here.

    Last week couldn't decide between munster or sj to trade in. Decided to wait a week......
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    Post by Scouter Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:55 am

    670 with Graham, Fifi, Holland, Barba & Aitken. Current rank 118

    Norman & Cleary as NPR hurts
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    Post by No Worries Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:19 am

    May be the guys who does the stats is on holidays and the fill in guy has a different interpretation. Could it be that simple and conspiracy free ?
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    Post by Shanbon Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:35 am

    I cant remember seeing a TA for anything other then the last pass, kick or tap down this year. So its either one of those or no TA at all. I have noticed that if a kick is fumbled by opposition then no TA is given.

    In other fantasy/stat sites its more subjective as they give it to the player most contributing to the try through the whole play.

    Overall it does look like this week has been scored differently by prozone and its annoying as it cost me money on Moneyball where TA's and LBAs are almost worth as much as the Try and LB
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    Post by Finch Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:55 am

    Dont forget, the 1st game on today is at 6PM NZ Time, or 4PM Aus time.

    Seems weird/feels good to be watching a game at that time on Monday.


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    Post by RandomSil Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:55 am

    Alright guys, you guys have to settle down. I was the one who made the terrible prediction. So I have to do this to clear the air... I was the one who said T. Simona would be the best current NRL center.. centre... center... Whatever... I was clearly wrong about Simona... He simple is the best NRL centre ever.
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    Post by standard-issue Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:07 am

    Random wrote:Alright guys, you guys have to settle down. I was the one who made the terrible prediction. So I have to do this to clear the air... I was the one who said T. Simona would be the best current NRL center.. centre... center... Whatever... I was clearly wrong about Simona... He simple is the best NRL centre ever.

    Nu-uh.
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    Post by Finch Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:16 am

    Kata vs Simona lets go!!
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    Post by Guest Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:45 am

    Wonder how long until Peachey gets DPP status in the CTR position.
    He is playing well, Panthers should leave him there

    Tohu Harris is a tease, could have named him in CTR one more time rather than in the halves.Bastards
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    Post by Onthebeatpete Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:47 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    They seem to have suddenly changed the ruling for TAs. Parcell had one taken away from him, and Smith missed one that was identical to TAs he's been given earlier in the season.

    So it seems consistent within the week, but it's a bit off that it's not consistent within the season, particularly when it enters the consideration of players who've made trades based on how the games have previously been scored.

    Maybe for next season they should simplify it and make TAs last.pass and take the subjectivity out of it.

    I totally agree, it should be black and white.

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