2016 Brisbane Broncos Resurrection Thread

Totally agree mate, but I guess you could say the same (though clearly not to the same extent) with why would anyone want to live in Penrith or Parramatta. Ipswich is a fucking shit hole tho, but its not worse than western sydey.

The thing is, like those western sydney areas - it is prob chocka block full of League Fans which the sunshine coast may or may not be.

Youre right tho, adding a second brisbane team doesnt automatically just mean the bronco's now get half the exposure half the players etc etc and people in brissy are so hard headed about the bronco's it would prob make the current fans dig their heels in more.

Dip wrote:
I mean, for example, didn't Ben Teo have a weekly regular gig on one of the biggest radio stations in Brisbane? I like Ben Teo, but it certainly wasn't his media skills that would have got him that gig, more that companies want to be associated with the Broncos for commercial reasons in the SEQ market.

You're partially right. He got the gig because he and Luttsy from Nova became a bit of a wolfpack and Luttsy just got Teo on every Monday morning to high five about the weekend's festivities. Cue 5 min of jokes about how Reed, Wallace and Luttsy get mixed up and allude to smashing shots and sluts without ever actually saying anything remotely un-family friendly.

The only thing stopped Merrin from that same type of deal is a lack of personality and a surplus in wives (1).

Pieman wrote:

Yeah but how much is unders?
Like... for example - if Mcguire got an offer from the titans that was 650k but chose to stay in brissy for 500 or 600... Sure thats unders but its still a fair chunk of money.

From memory both Thaiday and McGuire are on 400-450k per year.

Bren wrote:
From memory both Thaiday and McGuire are on 400-450k per year.

Considering Blair was on 500k at the tigers (Im aware he played like shit there for the most part), but would it be unreasonable to assume he is on about that or just slightly less than that now?

Pieman wrote:

Considering Blair was on 500k at the tigers (Im aware he played like shit there for the most part), but would it be unreasonable to assume he is on about that or just slightly less than that now?

No idea what Blair is on but surely it is less then 450k. At the time he was extremely out of form wasnt he? He wanted to play under Bennett so surely would also have signed for less

Well I'm not sure, but he was actually back in form in his final year after they moved him to front row and he was playing some decent footy.
I would assume that he is on slightly less than what he was on at the Tigers, but considering the salary cap is a lot higher now than what it was when he signed with the tigers - it wouldnt surprise me if he was on the same wage. Current International front rowers are pretty hard to come by.
Unless you're the broncos or cowboys who have a few few of them lol

Then again, Bennett does have a history of under paying front rowers doesnt he?

Dip wrote:

The problem is that the Broncos might already be too big to split the corporate dollar in Brisbane to the extent the league wants - for quite a few years anyway. It surprises me when you see teams talking of some expansion possibilites, like Ipswich. No offence to Ipswich, but what sponsor wants to be associated with there? Personally I'm surprised the Sunshine Coast doesn't get more of a mention. Solid growth in population, an international airport, space for an upgraded ground with plenty of parking space at Kawana, and a good tourist base which would allow the local council and industries to get interstate fans to travel here to see games, and it's own international identity. Getting sponsorship would probably be easier than other options (start with Virgin since Richard Branson owns an island here), or even something like Tourism QLD getting behind it could give a reasonable return to taxpayers, and it's somewhere players would want to live. What player wouldn't want to live at Mooloolaba in a kickarse apartment with beach views that you can buy for $600K and be 10-15 minutes drive from training and 10 minutes drive from the airport.

No doubt Sunny Coast is a shitload nicer place to visit but I'd hazard a guess that Ipswich would be able to attract some very good corporate sponsorship.

The local council has been actively and intelligently opening the door for industrial development for years now, hence the boom in people living out there.

Anyway, it's off topic and only raised because Pieman's gut feel is that we must be cheating the cap....simply because we aren't mis-managed like his rabble.

I said it the other week but people forget to take into account how poor our team looked on paper before 2015 and if I had the time (and could be fucked) I'd look up the Sportal threads where the anti-Broncos brigade (which most probably included Pieman) were giving us shit about how many years it would take to develop the team.

Low and behold, Bennett and the team exceeded expectations last season and now the simpletons like Pieman can't remember back a season.

Sportal forums are goooone and with it any knowledge of how many people were talking down the Broncos. Funny how we went from a team that is barely inside the top 8 to a team that has to win a Premiership this year or else it is a massive fail (while their shit bag team sits at the bottom of the table)

Bren wrote:Sportal forums are goooone and with it any knowledge of how many people were talking down the Broncos. Funny how we went from a team that is barely inside the top 8 to a team that has to win a Premiership this year or else it is a massive fail (while their shit bag team sits at the bottom of the table)

Wasnt it just Raffa and his 16 alts? Who else would have the audacity to bag out this proud club?

From what I remember, in 2014 and 2015 in the ladder prediction threads, the Broncos were generally put as fringe top 8, and limited by their opinion that we had to pay the majority of the contract on big pricetag guys like Barba and Martin Kennedy. After the round 1 flogging to Souths, we were written off as top 4 contenders, Milf was playing out of position at 5/8, Hunt was over his purple patch and wouldn't be able to rely on 300 gamer Scott Prince, Blair was a shadow of his Melbourne Storm days, Bennett was unable to adapt to the modern game, Hodges was old and broken, and McCullough was in the bottom 4 starting hookers in the game. Part of the reason 2015 was such a sweet season, even if we did lose the grand final. For 6.5 of the 7 months of the season it was great.

Isn't there a limit to how much TPA a player can earn as a %of their wage ? Thought that was why Souffs couldn't bring in Surgess for the cost of the Telegraph. You would think 50/50 would be too much. So thinking as I type. The yes argument is potentially a restraint of trade on the player, but that's exactly whatthey did with Surgess, the No argument just highlights how lop sided the comp is because the salary cap only stops clubs going broke and doesn't distribute talent.

Seggy is in with the same crowd as Papali & Norman.

Your Name wrote:Isn't there a limit to how much TPA a player can earn as a %of their wage ? Thought that was why Souffs couldn't bring in Surgess for the cost of the Telegraph. You would think 50/50 would be too much. So thinking as I type. The yes argument is potentially a restraint of trade on the player, but that's exactly whatthey did with Surgess, the No argument just highlights how lop sided the comp is because the salary cap only stops clubs going broke and doesn't distribute talent.

Seggy is in with the same crowd as Papali & Norman.

Isn't that what stopped the Eels from getting Folau?

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

No doubt Sunny Coast is a shitload nicer place to visit but I'd hazard a guess that Ipswich would be able to attract some very good corporate sponsorship.

The local council has been actively and intelligently opening the door for industrial development for years now, hence the boom in people living out there.

Anyway, it's off topic and only raised because Pieman's gut feel is that we must be cheating the cap....simply because we aren't mis-managed like his rabble.

I said it the other week but people forget to take into account how poor our team looked on paper before 2015 and if I had the time (and could be fucked) I'd look up the Sportal threads where the anti-Broncos brigade (which most probably included Pieman) were giving us shit about how many years it would take to develop the team.

Low and behold, Bennett and the team exceeded expectations last season and now the simpletons like Pieman can't remember back a season.

Really?
So having a healthy debate about what players are paid and worth and about where a new team should be - means "I hate the bronco's, they are cheating the cap", and all of a sudden ive got dementia?

Odd

I was never one of those people who said that stuff - I dont even know who did. Ive always been one that thought the bronco's under achieved under hook and henjack with the side they had on paper.
Since then they have done nothing but add quality players and big names.
It took about 5 games for hunt and milf to gel - was never really in doubt tho.

And yep, the knights are in an absolute mess - which has nothing to do with this discussion. Some would even say that Bennett is partially responsible for the mess too.

This is just for you OSM, ya muppett. I dont think the bronco's are cheating the cap. I think they were doing something very dodgy (aka the Gee situation, nearly got caught, they paid him to quit so he did and never said a word about it) but I dont think they are rorting the cap.
I think they are abusing the TPA system, using it a way it was never designed to be used and the fact that they are a great brand is a one team city in a state thats mad about league and there arent any REAL competitors helps them do it. Are they breaking any rules? None that we know of so we can only assume they are doing the right thing.

And also, McCullough is still shit

[quote="Pieman"]

Have some respect, that's FAC to you.

Your Name wrote:Isn't there a limit to how much TPA a player can earn as a %of their wage ? Thought that was why Souffs couldn't bring in Surgess for the cost of the Telegraph. You would think 50/50 would be too much. So thinking as I type. The yes argument is potentially a restraint of trade on the player, but that's exactly whatthey did with Surgess, the No argument just highlights how lop sided the comp is because the salary cap only stops clubs going broke and doesn't distribute talent.

Seggy is in with the same crowd as Papali & Norman.

Prob mate, but I dont understand why. Considering TPA's are suppose to have nothing to do with the club, how would they even know what a player is getting outside of the cap?

I know thats not how it works in reality, but that is how its suppose to work Isnt it?

I don't think there is a limit, but I'd say the NRL uses it as an indicator as to whether the TPA is genuine.

Parker retiring at the end of this year. I wonder whether we will go after someone like Ethan Lowe or just promote Jai Arrow instead.

I thought he had already agreed to play on next year.

Its prob just another ruse from the QLD camp "Hey boys how about instead of pulling the virus gag this week, Ill just tell everyone I'm retiring - retiring is the ultimate injury to fake". Then boom, next year doesnt retire.

Surely they will just promote from within, they certainly have the cattle there already.

Very sad to hear it

As reliable a forward as you could ever hope for, in the last couple of years. I imagine McGuire will slot into Lock?