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    Post by Pieman Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:03 pm

    Mearcats wrote:

    Hahaha, there's the banter I was looking for! When you've got a team that shit you can lay the blame on them all day, people expect nothing less!

    True, so he blames everything but his players and himself.... Clap
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    Post by Honeysett Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:09 pm

    Broncos as a one team town with a lot more pros than cons when it comes to everything it takes to succeed haven't won a premiership in ten years.

    It's been a decade. That's not good enough. If they don't win this year you'd think they've got one more year of their window. Unless they buy more superstar players from other teams of course.
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    Post by Mearcats Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:38 pm

    And yet since we came into the comp (the same year as the Knights) we've won how many? Hmmm? And around the time that we were winning em the Knights had some of NSW's best talent in Sniffer Johns, Bedsie etc.

     To be fair, I couldn't care less whether they win or lose this year. Definitely don't deserve to. Played a hell of a lot better last year than this year but were beaten by a better team. Guess it's probs better to finish runner up than with a spoon tho.

    C'mon lads, you'll need to do better than that to stir me up. I'm a smug assed Queenslander that supports a team that people say is a one town team. Think I sleep poorly at night about it? Razz
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    Post by Guest Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:52 pm

    Honeysett wrote:a one team town with a lot more pros than cons

    Problem?
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    Post by code delta Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:02 pm

    Mearcats wrote:I'm a smug assed Queenslander that supports a team that people say is a one town team. Think I sleep poorly at night about it? Razz
    Says someone living in sunny Geelong who'd rather be in Townsville. Smile
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    Post by Mearcats Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:28 pm

    Fuck Geelong, rainy cold bloody place. I'm here for the money! Lol. And there's no way in hell I'd live in Townsville. But if I did I'd still support me Broncs.
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    Post by Honeysett Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:03 am

    Bren wrote:

    Problem?

    Yeah, you haven't won a premiership in ten years. That's a big problem. Underachieving at it's absolutely highest.
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    Post by Ice Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:57 am

    How bout Bennets latest whinge re scheduling of finals. He thinks the Broncos should know when/where they are playing before other teams have even played their final game and we know what teams fill position 1 to 8. It's not enough they got to play Thursday and will have the longest turnaround of any side, he wants the advantage of knowing. He even said.... We deserve that. If we don’t know by Sunday if we should be back training by Sunday then we’ve missed a huge advantage.”
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    Post by Pieman Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:16 am

    yep, bennett is pretty great when everything falls into place for him
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    Post by Guest Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:26 am

    Honeysett wrote:

    Yeah, you haven't won a premiership in ten years. That's a big problem. Underachieving at it's absolutely highest.
    You missed the joke entirely...

    You appear to be seriously concerned over another teams Premiership success rather then the more important issue of your own clubs recent success or lack thereof (back to back spoons for the Knights).

    I find it strange that you havent delved deeper into another one club city such as Melbourne recent Premiership success especially considering they have had 2 possibly 3 future immortals at their club for the entirety of their NRL careers. Since the year 2000 the Storm have only won 1 Premiership where as the Broncos have won 2 since and including the year 2000. In that case alone as you suggest the Storm are underachieving even more so then Brisbane much like another one town club in the Knights who have also only won 1 Premiership this century.

    To further the debate on one club cities recent Premiership success we can also look at the Cowboys and Raiders who between them have only won 1 Premiership also this century with the Cowboys win last year. So in turn the Broncos have only 1 Premiership less then 4 other one club cities combined since the year 2000. Not a bad outcome IMO.
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    Post by Pieman Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:13 am

    Shows how fucking hard it is to win a premiership......

    Pretty interesting when you put it that way - the Knights and the Storm have won the same amount of premierships in the last 15 years.

    Since the year 2000 only Manly, Brisbane and the Roosters have won two premierships.
    Newcastle, Penrith, Canterbury, Wests-Tigers, St George, Melbourne, Souths and NQ taking up the other spots.

    Considering that Manly and the Roosters are not "one town teams", maybe being a "one town team" does not give that perceived on field advantage that people harp on about (including myself). Where it does help, is crowd numbers and financially off the field.

    Pretty crazy that a side like Newcastle has had the same amount of success as the glamour clubs like Souths and Melbourne in the last 15 years.

    11 out of 16 teams have won comps in the last 15 years. I guess you could see that as the Cap doing its job - spreading out the talent and therefore spreading out the wins. But in reality - half the league is brilliant and half the league is shit
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    Post by Mearcats Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:12 pm

    Bren wrote:
    You missed the joke entirely...

    You appear to be seriously concerned over another teams Premiership success rather then the more important issue of your own clubs recent success or lack thereof (back to back spoons for the Knights).

    I find it strange that you havent delved deeper into another one club city such as Melbourne recent Premiership success especially considering they have had 2 possibly 3 future immortals at their club for the entirety of their NRL careers. Since the year 2000 the Storm have only won 1 Premiership where as the Broncos have won 2 since and including the year 2000. In that case alone as you suggest the Storm are underachieving even more so then Brisbane much like another one town club in the Knights who have also only won 1 Premiership this century.

    To further the debate on one club cities recent Premiership success we can also look at the Cowboys and Raiders who between them have only won 1 Premiership also this century with the Cowboys win last year. So in turn the Broncos have only 1 Premiership less then 4 other one club cities combined since the year 2000. Not a bad outcome IMO.

    In all honesty Bren, this is possibly one of the best breakdowns that I have read. You could have gone a step further and added a winning percentage of 63.63% since their inception (only 0.01% behind Melbourne as the highest team in the league) or the fact that only 6 other teams have won more premierships than the Broncs and all of those six teams have been around on average for something like 55yrs longer than the Broncos.

    So, if we really want to get funny and work out the premiership success rate of a team since it's inception, I think the Broncs would be well and truly up there. To top it off, since 1988 we've not made the finals twice in that whole time. 

    Underachieving, I think not good sir @Honeysett, probs the complete opposite in fact.
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    Post by Pain Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:48 pm

    The knights are a one team town as well, right?
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    Post by Mearcats Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:23 pm

    Yup. Don't see why not.
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    Post by Pain Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:30 pm

    Knights wouldn't have much competition from other codes either.
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    Post by Dip Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:39 pm

    Being a one team town is a disadvantage on the field due to the extra travel required. Huge advantage from a corporate viewpoint though.
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    Post by Honeysett Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:04 pm

    Bren wrote:
    You missed the joke entirely...

    You appear to be seriously concerned over another teams Premiership success rather then the more important issue of your own clubs recent success or lack thereof (back to back spoons for the Knights).

    I find it strange that you havent delved deeper into another one club city such as Melbourne recent Premiership success especially considering they have had 2 possibly 3 future immortals at their club for the entirety of their NRL careers. Since the year 2000 the Storm have only won 1 Premiership where as the Broncos have won 2 since and including the year 2000. In that case alone as you suggest the Storm are underachieving even more so then Brisbane much like another one town club in the Knights who have also only won 1 Premiership this century.

    To further the debate on one club cities recent Premiership success we can also look at the Cowboys and Raiders who between them have only won 1 Premiership also this century with the Cowboys win last year. So in turn the Broncos have only 1 Premiership less then 4 other one club cities combined since the year 2000. Not a bad outcome IMO.

    Storm have had their premierships taken off them, to use them as an example is a cop out. You know it and I know it.

    I'm talking about the Broncos because if I posted this in a Storm subforum they'd be no one to talk to about it.

    It's the attitude of Broncos supporters for decades that's the reason I'm posting in here, for years talking about how they're the best team in the NRL and generally acting like twats (not singled at at any of you). It's seeing the way they go about their business, the way the NRL and Channel 9 have ensured they've had a far more consistent draw since I can remember. A team that would have the most and best options for TPAs not to mention their perceived dodgy past. For years they've had a nursery of juniors to hand pick (which has since been thinned a littlel

    They're meant to be a heavyweight of the competition and they shouldn't be on a premiership drought as bad as they are. If you're being honest with yourselves you'd admit how disappointing you've been but that doesn't appear to be something a Broncos supporter can do.

    I'm happy to talk about Newcastle if you'd like. We got bought by a moron who hired a mercenary who fucked us up royally from the inside. Now we're left with the pieces of what was a horrible decision to sign Wayne Bennett

    @pain yes, we're a large country town not a capital city.
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    Post by Honeysett Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:08 pm

    Dip wrote:Being a one team town is a disadvantage on the field due to the extra travel required. Huge advantage from a corporate viewpoint though.

    Yes and no, Cowboys, Warriors yes. Broncos are only an hour and a half outside Sydney on a flight. You wouldn't lose a great deal from that standpoint. Still more than Sydney teams of course, but I'd suggest that traveling from Newcastle to Sydney would take just as long with the drive.
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    Post by standard-issue Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:31 pm

    Pain wrote:The knights are a one team town as well, right?
    With 1/8th the population.
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    Post by Guest Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:34 pm

    Storm had their Premierships taken off them because they cheated the salary cap, plain and simple. The Broncos have won more Premierships then the Storm since the year 2000, that is just a plain undeniable fact. Using them as an example is not a cop out despite your opinion of it being so. They cheated  the salary cap therefore any Premierships they won during that period do not count. You cannot argue against that.

    Individually the Broncos have won more Premierships then the Storm, Raiders, Cowboys, Warriors and Knights - all one club cities since the year 2000 therefore you must, no, you have to also include them as "underchieving at the absolute highest" despite your personal hatred / vendetta against all things Broncos/fans.


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