2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 1

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Pretty happy with latest draft
Doesn't feel that far under the cap but got 345k left over
Smith Hodgson
McGuire JWH Gurgess Hoare
Surgess KBrom Arrow Asiata Elliot Stimpson
Norman Moses McCrone Elgey
Chambers Idris Scott Kelly
Tedesco RTS Hayne Jennings Phythian

Not sold on Asiata. Struggled to make the side last year. I see a bigger role for Bolts and Hess, Lowe and Cooper are already 80 min players when fit. Scott will play much the same. Lolo i think will probably increase from 50 to maybe 55 min or more. Hoare/Kafusi for decent minutes. Leaving Asiata to continue getting 20-25 min when he makes the side. Just my gut feeling.

Welshy wrote:Got a base that I am real happy with going forward now

Anyone going with big money CTRs like BJ or Croker to start the season? or are people saving and hoping for a return to fantasy form for the likes of Chambers, Bird, Idris etc

Same in the backs with bypassing Tedesco, Walker, Rapana for the likes of RTS/Hayne as the main "Gun"

I would love to start with BJ, in same way you'd love to start with Teddy, because he can crank out some massive scores, and think points difference between BJ and eg. Whare will be more than Teddy vs. eg. Slater. However he's just too expensive to justify in the team permutations I've come up with so far.

Welshy wrote:Bit more picking around Either would be going with Smith + Holmes or McCullough + Tedesco

Smith + Holmes would be my pick

rhinoceroo wrote:

I would love to start with BJ, in same way you'd love to start with Teddy, because he can crank out some massive scores, and think points difference between BJ and eg. Whare will be more than Teddy vs. eg. Slater. However he's just too expensive to justify in the team permutations I've come up with so far.

For eg. here's a team I did with BJ in but it has only two reliable bench players (McCullough and Elgey) and 10k spare

Hodgson, McCullough
McGuire, Wallace, Hoare, Perrett
Surgess, Taupau, Klemmer, LLeilua, Capewell, Simpkins
SJ, Norman, Elgey, 138
BJ, Idris, Kelly, RJennings
RTS, Hayne, Slater, Phythian, Drew

However there are a lot of potential keepers in that team (One of Hodgson/McCull plus McGuire, Surgess, Taupau, Klemmer, SJ, Norman, BJ, RTS and Hayne)

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rhinoceroo wrote:

For eg. here's a team I did with BJ in but it has only two reliable bench players (McCullough and Elgey) and 10k spare

Hodgson, McCullough
McGuire, Wallace, Hoare, Perrett
Surgess, Taupau, Klemmer, LLeilua, Capewell, Simpkins
SJ, Norman, Elgey, 138
BJ, Idris, Kelly, RJennings
RTS, Hayne, Slater, Phythian, Drew

However there are a lot of potential keepers in that team (One of Hodgson/McCull plus McGuire, Surgess, Taupau, Klemmer, SJ, Norman, BJ, RTS and Hayne)

I like this team!

rhinoceroo wrote:

For eg. here's a team I did with BJ in but it has only two reliable bench players (McCullough and Elgey) and 10k spare

Hodgson, McCullough
McGuire, Wallace, Hoare, Perrett
Surgess, Taupau, Klemmer, LLeilua, Capewell, Simpkins
SJ, Norman, Elgey, 138
BJ, Idris, Kelly, RJennings
RTS, Hayne, Slater, Phythian, Drew

However there are a lot of potential keepers in that team (One of Hodgson/McCull plus McGuire, Surgess, Taupau, Klemmer, SJ, Norman, BJ, RTS and Hayne)

I feel the same whenever I do a team with a cow backup hooker. I'm not against the idea per se but I always seem to be a reserve short.

Here's my current iteration:

Smith Macca
McGuire Gurgess Dafiti Hoare
Surgess KBrom Hess Pangai Elliot Nuff
SJ Norman Elgey Nuff
Turbo Scott Kelly Drew
Hayne Slater RTS Phythian Jennings 12K

is the general consensus KBrom plays 80 in the backrow with Harris?

Welshy wrote:is the general consensus KBrom plays 80 in the backrow with Harris?

I guess. Proctor averaged 70 minutes there and averaged 50. KBrom is priced at 34 so there should be some value there unless they go more to Harris and Finuncane.

mulvy wrote:

I guess. Proctor averaged 70 minutes there and averaged 50. KBrom is priced at 34 so there should be some value there unless they go more to Harris and Finuncane.

Cheers mate! Down to NAS and KBrom then really and NAS better for impact off the bench I suppose

Any love on here for Sauaso Sue currently have him pencilled in over KBromwich and a few others, not sure where he fits in with JTaylors plans but quite like him as a player.

Welshy wrote:is the general consensus KBrom plays 80 in the backrow with Harris?

I don't think so. He may get the first 45-50 at second row, have a spell with Kaufusi coming on to play the rest of the game, then come back on the middle for the last 15 or something for Finucane. To me, K Brom is more suited to a middle spot so it will be interesting what the rotation will be and how his scoring will be. My feeling is that whoever gets the starting spot they will play between 60-65 minutes and no more.

Interesting that KBrom's PPM drops significantly with minutes over 45. In 14 games last year he played less than 45 minutes for an average score of 29 in 33 minutes (0.8788 PPM). In 10 games he played 45 minutes or more for an average score of 40 from 56 minutes (0.7143 PPM).

By my calculations he will score anywhere from an average of 36-46 with the range being for how much an impact playing on the edge instead of in the middle has on his scoring. My best guess is that he will average around 40 which is a good return for a player priced at 34.

mulvy wrote:

I feel the same whenever I do a team with a cow backup hooker. I'm not against the idea per se but I always seem to be a reserve short.

Here's my current iteration:

Smith Macca
McGuire Gurgess Dafiti Hoare
Surgess KBrom Hess Pangai Elliot Nuff
SJ Norman Elgey Nuff
Turbo Scott Kelly Drew
Hayne Slater RTS Phythian Jennings 12K

I really like your team mate. Get rid of Slater though as he's too risky. The word is he won't even play round 1. Even if Slater does play how long will he last.

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:Any love on here for Sauaso Sue currently have him pencilled in over KBromwich and a few others, not sure where he fits in with JTaylors plans but quite like him as a player.

Pretty sure we had the Sauaso Sue discussion last year and a few people thought he would get a bigger role and more points etc but it never eventuated. His role has not changed, status quo I would say. Midranger with no upside, move along as there is better value elsewhere.

I see a few teams with McCullough. With K-Nik on the bench in 2016 Macca's minutes were about 55ish & he scored rubbish. It wasn't until K-Nik got injured that he went back to his best. Bennett seriously phucked with Macca fantasy wise in 2016 always giving K-Nik 20-25 mins at hooker. What makes you think it will be any different in 2017.

Warriors wrote:

Interesting that KBrom's PPM drops significantly with minutes over 45. In 14 games last year he played less than 45 minutes for an average score of 29 in 33 minutes (0.8788 PPM). In 10 games he played 45 minutes or more for an average score of 40 from 56 minutes (0.7143 PPM).

Yeah some dude on sc addicts posted the same re K-Brom. He scores best at the 45-50 minute range. When he played longer minutes his scores regressed. However that imo is due to him being a bench player & not being used to playing longer minutes. If the plan is for him to play big minutes on the edge in 2017 he'll have a full off season to condition himself for the extra minutes so the "score regression issue" may not be an issue.

Also, those that are picking Andrew McCullough, I have gone right off him.

In games where Kodi Nikorima was is the team (10 games together not included his injury game) he averaged 43 points in 62 minutes (Nikorima was not a direct replacement in all games).

It wasn't until Nikorima got injured for the last 8 games that McCullough did any good. Averaged 52 points in 77 minutes. If Nikorima is on the bench round 1 I would be very wary.

White Lightning wrote:I see a few teams with McCullough. With K-Nik on the bench in 2016 Macca's minutes were about 55ish & he scored rubbish. It wasn't until K-Nik got injured that he went back to his best. Bennett seriously phucked with Macca fantasy wise in 2016 always giving K-Nik 20-25 mins at hooker. What makes you think it will be any different in 2017.

Haha, didn't even see your post before writing mine. On the same page.

Warriors wrote:

Haha, didn't even see your post before writing mine. On the same page.

Yeah haha me too. You're onto it re Macca. He's a poor option if K-Nik is on the bench. Macca is a tackle machine but doesn't offer much else such as big run metres, tb's, offloads, etc so he needs big minutes to get big scores because he'll make 50+ tackles.

White Lightning wrote:

Yeah haha me too. You're onto it re Macca. He's a poor option if K-Nik is on the bench. Macca is a tackle machine but doesn't offer much else such as big run metres, tb's, offloads, etc so he needs big minutes to get big scores because he'll make 50+ tackles.

What are your thoughts on McInnes at the Dragons. I reckon he will be an 80 minute hooker. Fit and strong and can break tackles.

With a heap of forwards like Packer, LAM, T Sims, Frizzell to be managed with his back injury, JDB broken wrist etc reckon they will have a four forward bench and not bother with Havilli to start the year. Could easily average 60 playing 80 minutes especially if he can jag the odd try which he likes to do. Thinking him and Vaughan will be big signings for the Dragons.