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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:30 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    Been looking at some of the early team drafts and one thing sticks out.
    Everyone's 2nd row is absolute garbage.

    Early days and all teams will change as trials get underway,  but a lot of people relying on the flimsiest of 2nd row cash cows.  

    We've been looking at hookers all week here,  but it might be time to start looking at back row options

    I've toyed with the idea of running Surgess with a Cordner/Gillett/Papalii as 2nd option without ruining too much team balance and will probably be the way I end up going rather than the luxury of Cleary or Tedesco
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:35 pm

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    I've toyed with the idea of running Surgess with a Cordner/Gillett/Papalii as 2nd option without ruining too much team balance and will probably be the way I end up going rather than the luxury of Cleary or Tedesco
    Its much easier to move a failed 2RF cheapie onto a surging missed cow in the 2RF than it is to move a cheapie WFB onto another simply because there are so many more consistent scoring options in the second row

    More than likely a failed cheap WFB experiment requires more work to turn that dud scorer into some more feasable
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:36 pm

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    Fuck forgot about that!  It was like 3 or 4 games too wasn't it?  Which side does Idris play, as in, does Rankin even get a jersey?

    Idris is a better centre than Naiqama.  Whether Taylor sees it that way is one thing.  Another thing is whether that pushes Naiqama to wing or out of squad.

    Wasn't Naiqama going to England? Anything ever come from that

    Made out like a done deal, then it all went quiet.

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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:37 pm

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    My thoughts on the hooker position:
    -  I'd be shocked if Roberts wasn't named on the bench for the Titans, I know Peats has been talking about the 80 minutes a lot but there's nothing new there.  Limited up side for Peats I think.
    -  I won't be risking Farah this year, especially with the injury.  Plus I don't think that he'll be able to do the amount of kicking he did at the tigers when he was an out and out gun.  The tigers never had a Reynolds - hell we never had a Walker in our kicking game!
    -  I see why people are interested in McInnes, I don't see why it will work out any different to Rein, where McGreggor names a hooker with no utility on the bench in R1 and then proceeds to bend everybody over for the remainder of the year?
    -  I'm a fan of McCullough this year, I see him playing 80 minutes (60 hooker, 20 lock) with Arrow/McGuire playing 60 minutes at lock.
    -  I never ever pick Luke and I never ever regret it.
    -  Every year I pick Smith as my first player and proceed to captain him every week.  I rarely ever regret it and will find it hard not to do the same this year.
    -  I haven't read much about Koroisau this year, with Manly booting Parcell (seriously WTF?), he could play big minutes (unless Hastings gets the bench spot)?
    -  There seem to be enough potential cashcows this year to go a gun and a cow at hooker - King (how long before he gets injured, the guy has to be a long shot to get through the pre-season and the first 5 rounds), Cherrington (I keep reading Morts is the favorite to get the gig, but this kid id too talented to play behind Morts).  I don't think I'd be touching whatever the Tigers are doing at 9 (though in the non-hooker related stakes, I am really looking forward to Marsters getting a run this year - kid could be anything) and I don't think there's enough cash in Kostjasyn to warrant a bench spot.

    I don't think there's much of a reason to expect much different from last year for the remainder of the lot pending injuries...

    Brilliant work mate & a great summary but it would give me the shits going with Macca again as I had him from round 1 in 2016 & it wasn't pretty haha.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:37 pm

    Would be running something like this

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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:37 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:
    Milchcow wrote:
    Been looking at some of the early team drafts and one thing sticks out.
    Everyone's 2nd row is absolute garbage.

    Early days and all teams will change as trials get underway,  but a lot of people relying on the flimsiest of 2nd row cash cows.  

    We've been looking at hookers all week here,  but it might be time to start looking at back row options

    I've toyed with the idea of running Surgess with a Cordner/Gillett/Papalii as 2nd option without ruining too much team balance and will probably be the way I end up going rather than the luxury of Cleary or Tedesco

    Do you think Papalii can turn is Fantasy scores around?
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:41 pm

    flasSId* wrote:

    Do you think Papalii can turn is Fantasy scores around?
    Nope Papa has averaged 44-45 over the last 3 years

    best you can hope for is a fast start then turning him into an elite 2RF like Harris/Mannering/Bodene/Merrin
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:42 pm

    flasSId* wrote:

    Do you think Papalii can turn is Fantasy scores around?

    Maybe a few more attacking stats in a more settled Raiders team with Sezer and Austin playing more game but you can pretty much lock him in as a 17th/18th man for the end of the year
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:45 pm

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    Floor Pie wrote:

    My thoughts on the hooker position:
    -  I'd be shocked if Roberts wasn't named on the bench for the Titans, I know Peats has been talking about the 80 minutes a lot but there's nothing new there.  Limited up side for Peats I think.
    -  I won't be risking Farah this year, especially with the injury.  Plus I don't think that he'll be able to do the amount of kicking he did at the tigers when he was an out and out gun.  The tigers never had a Reynolds - hell we never had a Walker in our kicking game!
    -  I see why people are interested in McInnes, I don't see why it will work out any different to Rein, where McGreggor names a hooker with no utility on the bench in R1 and then proceeds to bend everybody over for the remainder of the year?
    -  I'm a fan of McCullough this year, I see him playing 80 minutes (60 hooker, 20 lock) with Arrow/McGuire playing 60 minutes at lock.
    -  I never ever pick Luke and I never ever regret it.
    -  Every year I pick Smith as my first player and proceed to captain him every week.  I rarely ever regret it and will find it hard not to do the same this year.
    -  I haven't read much about Koroisau this year, with Manly booting Parcell (seriously WTF?), he could play big minutes (unless Hastings gets the bench spot)?
    -  There seem to be enough potential cashcows this year to go a gun and a cow at hooker - King (how long before he gets injured, the guy has to be a long shot to get through the pre-season and the first 5 rounds), Cherrington (I keep reading Morts is the favorite to get the gig, but this kid id too talented to play behind Morts).  I don't think I'd be touching whatever the Tigers are doing at 9 (though in the non-hooker related stakes, I am really looking forward to Marsters getting a run this year - kid could be anything) and I don't think there's enough cash in Kostjasyn to warrant a bench spot.

    I don't think there's much of a reason to expect much different from last year for the remainder of the lot pending injuries...

    Brilliant work mate & a great summary but it would give me the shits going with Macca again as I had him from round 1 in 2016 & it wasn't pretty haha.


    Hahaha, yeah, I felt really sorry for you and your Macca last year.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:47 pm

    He had that try scoring run in 2015 (I think) round the same time Austin was killing it, but if he stays in the same role then he is an out there pick MS! Luck favours the brave though.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:47 pm

    Tohu gets shifted around alot, but his avg in the 2RF last year was 57  Shocked Shocked
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:48 pm

    flasSId* wrote:He had that try scoring run in 2015 (I think) round the same time Austin was killing it, but if he stays in the same role then he is an out there pick MS!  Luck favours the brave though.
    He is certainly no Tyson Frizell...........

















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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:50 pm

    flasSId* wrote:He had that try scoring run in 2015 (I think) round the same time Austin was killing it, but if he stays in the same role then he is an out there pick MS!  Luck favours the brave though.

    Would much prefer someone more settled in their role like Gillett or Cordner but Papalii is a better option than Klemmer IMO
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:53 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Would much prefer someone more settled in their role like Gillett or Cordner but Papalii is a better option than Klemmer IMO
    Not sure on the Klemmer bit mate, short sample size but Klemmer averaged 48.5 when starting lock for the Dogs (13 games) only included 1 try as well
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    Post by Archer Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:07 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    He is certainly no Tyson Frizell...........

















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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:10 pm

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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:11 pm

    Welshy wrote:Tohu gets shifted around alot, but his avg in the 2RF last year was 57  Shocked Shocked

    Imagine his scores if he swaps to the right edge outside Cronk. Should see a few more tries running off Cronk.
    I'm also looking at B. Thompson especially in round 1 v Knights. I can just see him running off SJ & scoring 2 tries.

    I might go Bodene over Tohu as he's good for round 12 & also since he's dearer it's an easy downgrade to Tohu.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:13 pm

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    chances Sione stays in the backrow? whats the pack make up looking like from a knights fan?


    Back row of Sione, Barnett, Buhrer?
    Starling, DSaifiti, JSaifiti, Mataora, Pauli for props?

    Question is Korbin Sims, who could play anywhere, including at another club.
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    Post by Archer Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:20 pm

    I'll try and give a non biased assessment of Papa fantasy wise. His scores are very up and down because he tends to be used in a variety of ways depending on our game plan.

    Some games he was pushed in to defend a lot closer to the middle, with a half defending at CTR and Croker defending where Papa would. Other games he defended out wider in the traditional 2nd Row spot. You add the fact that teams tend to target one particular side of the field in attack depending on the team and you would see big swings in his tackle count from one game to the next.

    Then you throw in attacking stats into the mix and Papa is a player who can bust several tackles, offload to set up a try or just break the line all together and score himself, however we don't often use him for a lot of hit ups and some games he may even play as a decoy or we just give BJ+Rapa all the ball on the other side. It means you get some games where he makes a ton of tackles in the middle, scores a try, TB's out the wazoo and a TA and others where he makes 15 tackles, 8 Hitups for 80m.

    If you jag him at a time where he gets a few of those big games in a row, you can net yourself some bargain points for his cost but over the long run he's not going to average out any higher than he has in the past I'd say. Amazing player though, the kind that makes chumps like Frizz write a letter to Santa asking to be half as good as him one day
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:23 pm

    Milchcow wrote:


    Back row of Sione,  Barnett,  Buhrer?
    Starling,  DSaifiti,  JSaifiti,  Mataora,  Pauli for props?

    Question is Korbin Sims,   who could play anywhere,  including at another club.
    That's the starting backrow i pictured mate!

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