2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 1

White Lightning wrote:

Cleary is only 443k in supercoach. I thought he'd be around the same price in fantasy.

This is where you find out supercoach doesn't give points for luck metres

Mighty Fishes wrote:

So you wouldn't start Mitch Rein?

I thought they'd be looking to try and get their best starting side and to me I think that's with Rein starting Carty back to the second row and either Martin OR!!! Wallace to start in the halves with the other on the bench.

I forgot the Panthers signed Rein however I still personally rate Wallace over him at hooker also.

Is it true that Lafai has gone to the Storm?

White Lightning wrote:Is it true that Lafai has gone to the Storm?

Not sure but I hope it's true. The Storm system / Bellamy would hopefully get the best out of him and hopefully return him to the gun status he had a few seasons ago (then again that could have just been an anomaly).

Is Elgey good enough to play in your 17? Avg of 29.75 in 2015 playing about 74 min per game at half and coming back from injury. Awkward price of 197k for an NPR. Thoughts?

mulvy wrote:Is Elgey good enough to play in your 17? Avg of 29.75 in 2015 playing about 74 min per game at half and coming back from injury. Awkward price of 197k for an NPR. Thoughts?

Extra 60k over a rookie might be worth the investment, or cost you a gun elsewhere... Not interested at this stage personally.

flasSId* wrote:

mulvy wrote:Is Elgey good enough to play in your 17? Avg of 29.75 in 2015 playing about 74 min per game at half and coming back from injury. Awkward price of 197k for an NPR. Thoughts?

Extra 60k over a rookie might be worth the investment, or cost you a gun elsewhere...  Not interested at this stage personally.

An extra $60k for a starting half over an NPR at the start of the year hoping they may get a start. Well sign me up. The only way I dont start with him is if he isnt in a starting role or there are other 2 rookie priced halves starting. (Which I cant even think of one.) If he was starting and there were 2 rookie hlfs starting. I would ruj only one gun.

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flasSId* wrote:

mulvy wrote:Is Elgey good enough to play in your 17? Avg of 29.75 in 2015 playing about 74 min per game at half and coming back from injury. Awkward price of 197k for an NPR. Thoughts?

Extra 60k over a rookie might be worth the investment, or cost you a gun elsewhere...  Not interested at this stage personally.

An extra $60k for a starting half over an NPR at the start of the year hoping they may get a start. Well sign me up. The only way I dont start with him is if he isnt in a starting role or there are other 2 rookie priced halves starting. (Which I cant even think of one.) If he was starting and there were 2 rookie hlfs starting. I would ruj only one gun.

If he is your 2nd half than understandable, a risk that may pay off if he gives you another gun elsewhere. As a 3rd or 4th half NPR though then you will be in 2 minds right up till 1st lockout knowing you could use that 60k to upgrade elsewhere. Surely they start the year with Taylor/Roberts?

flasSId* wrote:

If he is your 2nd half than understandable, a risk that may pay off if he gives you another gun elsewhere.  As a 3rd or 4th half NPR though then you will be in  2 minds right up till 1st lockout knowing you could use that 60k to upgrade elsewhere.  Surely they start the year with Taylor/Roberts?

I'll try and find the original source but I'm damn sure I read somewhere that there was a strong possibility that the Titans start the year with Elgey and Taylor and Roberts as bench utility. Then again that doesn't mean a whole lot until TLT.

Losing Friend and Morts does make Roberts the best choice for utility I guess. Hadn't thought about it, just assumed they'd continue on with what worked pretty well last year.

Long term Elgey is the better option than Roberts. Just depends on if they throw Elgey straight in, or ease him back into first grade

flasSId* wrote:
If he is your 2nd half than understandable, a risk that may pay off if he gives you another gun elsewhere.  As a 3rd or 4th half NPR though then you will be in  2 minds right up till 1st lockout knowing you could use that 60k to upgrade elsewhere.  Surely they start the year with Taylor/Roberts?

Sure $60k is a decent upgrade elsewhere but I feel the HLF position may be sparse in terms of rookies and I would rather start with Elgey and pay a little extra than to pick up a Rookie who doesnt make teamlists week one and is hoping for an injury.

Hey guys thanks for the responses. Posted that and ended up going out. Was thinking Elgey might be 2nd half next to a gun which is probably fine if he indeed scores around 10 more than his price. Gives cash for elsewhere. Would as pointed out mean finding two rookies for the bench which could be difficult. With money tight might be too much to keep on the bench

Speaking of money being tight, I've gone back to the Smith dilemma again. Hypothetically If you didn't start with Smith it saves a lot of money but he is probably the best captain choice. Could someone check my maths here (trades aside)?. I would contend that Smith probably continues to score about 67. If your next choice captain in your team, say Surgess continues to average around 60, you are missing out on 7 bonus points per round. The 631k should buy you around 67 points (631000 divided by MN 9462). But if that money bought a different hooker and upgraded a mid ranger to gun you would just need those two players to collectively score seven higher than their average wouldn't you? Then just a matter of picking an underpriced hooker. Basically if you don't pick Smith, you are saying that your hooker is going to score 7 or more above their average aren't you?

On that, is Peats a chance of 80 minutes this year. Anyone see his price? I'll head back to Milchy's prices a few pages ago.

flasSId* wrote:On that, is Peats a chance of 80 minutes this year.  Anyone see his price?  I'll head back to Milchy's prices a few pages ago.

424k is official price. I'm wondering about Farah at 435k

Jake Granville averaged 61 minutes last year. For those of you thinking Kostjasyn is priced cheap because he obviously played only the remaining 19 minutes, he actually averaged 42 minutes (shuffled through the backrow for Lolo) and only averaged 22. Great player but I don't see him improving that much in fantasy unless Brown uses him entirely differently.

Yeah, Kostjasyn is a big trap. And I'm also weary of all of the rookie priced hookers that may share time 40/40. Thinking back to Manaia Cherrington last year. (First three games, average 40 mins for 22 points).

So I'm weary of the Cherrington/F Brown/ J Brailey combo at the Sharks, and I'm also weary of the Mcllwrick/ Liddle combo with Ballin coming back from a serious injury and at the end of his career.

Thinking I might start with two gun Hookers and when/if a Matt Parcell/Craig Garvey come up I'll jump. For starters, the most reliable hooker at 143K is Ballin whom will struggle to be fit for round 1 (and is made of glass).

So I have a choice between Farah, McCullough, Peats and McInnes to partner Smith, and I'm leaning towards McCullough.

@ Warriors - I had Macca from the start last year & he was a nightmare as K-Nik came on & stole his minute. Imo he's the 2nd best hooker behind Smith only if he plays 70+ mins. If round 1 has K-Nik on the bench then pass on Macca.
Peats while a good chance for big mins is injury prone. Also the Titans will run with T. Roberts/Elgey on the bench as a utility so they could steal his mins. Usually Peats would stay on the field & play lock but this year imo he will have a rest as I expect James to play close to 80 mins each week & if he starts at prop then he will get rotated to lock during the game.
Farah is a wait & see for me. He has the bicep injury, Cook might be on the bench & how does Farah fit into the team structure at Souths.
McInnes could be the one to get the most mins out of the four options but he could easily get spelled with McCrone, Havili & Marketo all capable of playing dummy half.

I agree - McCullough is the best option but only if K-Nik isn't on the bench. If this happens then McInnes is the 2nd best option.

White Lightning wrote:@ Warriors - I had Macca from the start last year & he was a nightmare as K-Nik came on & stole his minute. Imo he's the 2nd best hooker behind Smith only if he plays 70+ mins. If round 1 has K-Nik on the bench then pass on Macca.
Peats while a good chance for big mins is injury prone. Also the Titans will run with T. Roberts/Elgey on the bench as a utility so they could steal his mins. Usually Peats would stay on the field & play lock but this year imo he will have a rest as I expect James to play close to 80 mins each week & if he starts at prop then he will get rotated to lock during the game.
Farah is a wait & see for me. He has the bicep injury, Cook might be on the bench & how does Farah fit into the team structure at Souths.
McInnes could be the one to get the most mins out of the four options but he could easily get spelled with McCrone, Havili & Marketo all capable of playing dummy half.

I agree - McCullough is the best option but only if K-Nik isn't on the bench. If this happens then McInnes is the 2nd best option.

Agree, I am hoping with Parker gone Bennett realises he needs to leave McCullough out there for the 80 for defense. His end to the year is encouraging.

Just don't think we are going to get a Parcell or a Garvey this year and if Smith happens to get injured for 1 or two games I'm not wasting two trades to get him out and back in again and I also don't want to get hit with a sub 30 score from a rookie hooker who plays only 40 to 50 mins per game.

Charity shield will be a very interesting watch with both McInnes and Farah up against each other, thinking I will pass on Peats regardless due to injury worry and the fact that Roberts/Elgy will take minutes away from Peats at some stage during the year.

McCullough I was keen on because he needs to take on a more senior role this year and is potentially 5-10 points underpriced due to minute reduction and injuries last year. Hooker and halves are the hardest positions this year.