2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 4

One of the rules of fantasy was never pick a player coming off a career best year, unless you think they can continue the form surge.
Going by that theory you could rule out the majority of the top 10 performers from last year.
Certainly Mannering, Hunt, RTS, Tedesco, Thurston.....
Whereas guys like Smith, Parker and Fensom have been doing it year in, year out.

Chucky wrote:One of the rules of fantasy was never pick a player coming off a career best year, unless you think they can continue the form surge.
Going by that theory you could rule out the majority of the top 10 performers from last year.
Certainly Mannering, Hunt, RTS, Tedesco, Thurston.....
Whereas guys like Smith, Parker and Fensom have been doing it year in, year out.

Don't agree with mannering would be with that first group. He has always been rock solid in terms of work rate, but being in the middle meant there was more for him. Hunt has had two good years in a row too so I wouldn't class him there either. Only RTS and maybe Ted I'd agree with tbh

Welshy87 wrote:For the Smith owners

Who are you captaining on opening weekend?

Smith plays on Monday night.......

Monday night captains curse is a myth. Smith played 5 monday games last year including one backing up from origin. He averaged 56.8 in these games with scores of 51, 49(origin), 64, 62 and 58

Pick 3 boys out of

M. Gordon, Ferguson, Mansour, Slater.

Cheers.

And to my Australian friends from NZ - lol your cricket team

White Lightning wrote:Pick 3 boys out of

M. Gordon, Ferguson, Mansour, Slater.

Cheers.

And to my Australian friends from NZ - lol your cricket team  

I have Gordon, Mansour and Slater at present. Reckon Ferguson will be alright but not improve massively. Kind of like Jack Wighton I guess.

SoylentGreen wrote:

Yet you look at who the top 10 scorers from last season were and smith and Parker are the only ones anyone's really been mentioning (fifita seems to have picked up some favour in the last few days).

I've barely seen a mention of Thurston, Hunt or RTS as legitimate options - Mannering and macca get the occasional look in.

Not criticising - I just find it interesting. I do think there's a risk though that as a group we are overlooking a few of the most proven scorers who are likely to remain in the upper echelon this year

It has to do with the salary cap though. You can't fit all the guns you want in so you have to make choices as to who you want. I think people like the appeal of Smith and Parker over other options because of consistency and longevity. Smith and Parker have been scoring at elite levels for the past few years whereas some of the newer options to the top tier bracket have had breakthrough years and so there is some concern of whether they can back it up. JT has for the most part been an up and down fantasy half in his career. Hunt has been playing well for the last 2 years but only last year did he dominate fantasy really and there is some doubt as to how much Milford may take on after a year adjusting to his role in the halves and with the Broncos. RTS had one of the best years as a player in memory but has shifted teams to one where they already have a gun playmaker who creates in attack, has a track record of starting poorly, and has a track record of a poor club culture which has hampered some players.

Then you have to look at alternative players. Macca is a great scorer but some may question his upside at an already high price when similar priced players are Seggy who has a lot of attacking upside potential, and Peats who is bye friendly and like Seggy has attacking potential. Mannering is highly priced but is another year older and doesn't have the track record of his fellow veteran players like Parker. Many may rather pay the extra for the perceived security Parker brings, or try to save a little by hoping Surgess returns to the top level. Then you have concerns with guys like Gallen and Fensom. Injury risk as well as being given breaks have been an issue for Gallen for the last few years and the uncertainty of the Raiders forward pack has put some off of Fensom.

I agree that there could be a pack mentality tendency when picking players as if a few people start getting on the next Frizell or Mannering then others take notice and think there might be something to it, but for the most part everyone here seems smart enough to be able to look at the players and work out various reasons for or against and it just so happens that with the top 10 players there are only a few who some people trust to perform to the same level from the start.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Monday night captains curse is a myth. Smith played 5 monday games last year including one backing up from origin. He averaged 56.8 in these games with scores of 51, 49(origin), 64, 62 and 58

But the average from those games is still 5 points less than his season average. So out of his 5 games he played on Monday night, more than half he scored lower than his average. The curse is real. Everybody fear the MNCC

Beast From The Big East wrote:

But the average from those games is still 5 points less than his season average. So out of his 5 games he played on Monday night, more than half he scored lower than his average. The curse is real. Everybody fear the MNCC

I suppose waiting for your captain to play is nervous times as he can make or break your entire round and people don't like waiting till Monday night to find out whats going to happen.

Scouter wrote:

I suppose waiting for your captain to play is nervous times as he can make or break your entire round and people don't like waiting till Monday night to find out whats going to happen.

Day of the week has never had an impact on who I captain. I simply pick the player I think will score the most points that week while having solid base points

Scouter wrote:

I suppose waiting for your captain to play is nervous times as he can make or break your entire round and people don't like waiting till Monday night to find out whats going to happen.

I don't think anyone really cares too much if their captain plays on Monday. It's more just become a bit of a joke with many reliable captain choices having lesser performances when playing Monday every once every so often.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Monday night captains curse is a myth. Smith played 5 monday games last year including one backing up from origin. He averaged 56.8 in these games with scores of 51, 49(origin), 64, 62 and 58

and he only hit his avg twice out of 5 for CS9 that's a curse in my eyes haha not just Smith got fucked by Farah in R2 last year when he bust out a magnificent 37

Milchcow wrote:
I think all your guys need to calm down about Jake Turbo.

In the run home last year he scored big twice, a 63 against NZ in Round 20.
Manly lost Steve Matai and Luke Burgess to injury early - and I think finished with 14 fit players. So Turbo got minutes he normally wouldn't, and scored a try.

In rd 22 he scored 2 tries for a 75. Now I'm going on a bit of a limb here and I'm going to claim he won't score 2 tries in a game all that often.

Take out those 2 games (and ignore his 27 minutes in Rd23) and he averaged 43 in the run home.

He is priced at an average of 39. So there is some value there, and probably he won't lose money.

But Myles and Taupau have joined the Manly pack now, and Lawrence is back from injury. Just can't see him getting a big increase in game time to become a super gun.

Agree here, he was the main man in that poor manly pack last year, too many variables introduced for me to lock him in as a massive riser, I used him in an example earlier as most seem to think he is locked in for an increased role/fantasy output I can see him hitting 45s at the most

Welshy87 wrote:@SI

got it mate

Go to leagues then there is a my history tab

click that and it gives you our final rank, best rank and total score
along with your position within any league you entered

I would screenshot it but it doesn't make for some pleasant viewing...for myself anyway

most of you morons would fucking love it no doubt

No worries, ta.  Yeah I saw the ranks but didn't notice you could see your league final positions.

Can someone explain to me which side of the field (usually) a number 6 plays and which side a number 7 plays? and how that affects the second rowers. Like does a number 11 or 12 play outside the 6 or 7?

Just wanting to know with regards to Manu M'au and whether he will be outside foran at 7 or Norman at 6.

Also which half will Joey Leilua play outside of at Raiders?

Pretty basic stuff, but I've never paid attention to the specific numbers of second rowers and how that works as a team positionally on the field relative to the halves.

Speedball Deluxe wrote:Can someone explain to me which side of the field (usually) a number 6 plays and which side a number 7 plays? and how that affects the second rowers. Like does a number 11 or 12 play outside the 6 or 7?

Just wanting to know with regards to Manu M'au and whether he will be outside foran at 7 or Norman at 6.

Also which half will Joey Leilua play outside of at Raiders?

Pretty basic stuff, but I've never paid attention to the specific numbers of second rowers and how that works as a team positionally on the field relative to the halves.

Norman, M'au, Takarangi, Semi on the left. not sure if Jennings is going to slot in on the left

Speedball Deluxe wrote:Can someone explain to me which side of the field (usually) a number 6 plays and which side a number 7 plays? and how that affects the second rowers. Like does a number 11 or 12 play outside the 6 or 7?

Just wanting to know with regards to Manu M'au and whether he will be outside foran at 7 or Norman at 6.

Also which half will Joey Leilua play outside of at Raiders?

Pretty basic stuff, but I've never paid attention to the specific numbers of second rowers and how that works as a team positionally on the field relative to the halves.

I've been informed that a players number does not designate him to a certain position therefore a no. 6 playing on the left side in one team doesn't necessary mean that the no. 6 in another team plays on the left side too.