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    Post by Chewie Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:20 am



    Yeah... halfback often receives the ball from the dummy-half and is the playmaker... 5/8 is more like a distributor. and yes they do swap sides.
    Even so, at the eels Norman was often found on the left
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:24 am

    i really hate the way rugby league has gone in the way that many teams park a 6 on one side of the field and a 7 on the other in attack. they are there to create and should both float where need be.

    i think we will see alot more of that (6 and 7 floating/swapping/linking/etc) again this year. teams need to get creative again.

    standard block plays just dont work as well anymore. that said alot of teams just dont know how to execute them well enough to properly create an advantage. or their halves go through the motions rather than thinking on their feet.
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    Post by Chewie Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:28 am

    What kind of points are we aiming for 1st round? About 850 and hope for the best?

    First 3 rounds highscores were 908, 942, and 1010 respectively (imagine cracking 1000 in the 3rd round Shocked )

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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:38 am

    Chewie wrote:What kind of points are we aiming for 1st round? About 850 and hope for the best?

    First 3 rounds highscores were 908, 942, and 1010 respectively (imagine cracking 1000 in the 3rd round  Shocked )


    I don't think the scores will be that high this time as there have been a lot of bugs in the system the last couple of years that people fraudulently took advantage of & cheated. Anything over 800 will be a great score for the first round.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:42 am

    With numbers, yeah, happens with Centres as well Speedball.  A 3 or a 4 doesn't necessarily mean you will be left or right.  The 4 used to be inside centre and the 3 outside centre, but now the majority of attack is based on left and right centres.  In saying that, it does seem that most teams name there Left centre with 4 and Right centre with 3, or am I wrong?
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    Post by Cake Tiger Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:43 am

    Some good points from Milchow about J Trbojevic. Nate Myles is $8k cheaper and will surely get more minutes. Haven't seen Myles in many teams. Anyone else thinking about sticking him in there?
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    Post by Johnny B Goode Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:49 am

    So if I were looking to get a mid-ranged FRF who looks like they could make a bit of cash and post some solid scores for my team who to go with between Ah Mau and Trbojevic? I have to say the argument about Trbojevic being only a mid 40's scorer at best is quite convincing but he could get better and he's rated highly by the coach while Ah Mau is a solid PPM player who if he gets the game time he'll presumably get the scores.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:56 am

    Cake Tiger wrote:Some good points from Milchow about J Trbojevic. Nate Myles is $8k cheaper and will surely get more minutes. Haven't seen Myles in many teams. Anyone else thinking about sticking him in there?

    I haven't looked at Myles closely yet. But in my mind he suffers from "old fart syndrome" and "only plays well for QLD disease"
    Will have a closer look at some point.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:03 pm

    Johnny B Goode wrote:So if I were looking to get a mid-ranged FRF who looks like they could make a bit of cash and post some solid scores for my team who to go with between Ah Mau and Trbojevic? I have to say the argument about Trbojevic being only a mid 40's scorer at best is quite convincing but he could get better and he's rated highly by the coach while Ah Mau is a solid PPM player who if he gets the game time he'll presumably get the scores.
    To me based on your arguments here you should go Ah Mau.  I very much doubt I will pick him myself, but yeah, room for improvement minutes wise and great PPM.
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    Post by Warriors Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:26 pm

    Johnny B Goode wrote:So if I were looking to get a mid-ranged FRF who looks like they could make a bit of cash and post some solid scores for my team who to go with between Ah Mau and Trbojevic? I have to say the argument about Trbojevic being only a mid 40's scorer at best is quite convincing but he could get better and he's rated highly by the coach while Ah Mau is a solid PPM player who if he gets the game time he'll presumably get the scores.

    If I remember right Manly had Ballin for the most part as an 80 minute hooker last year. This year they have two hookers in the 17 you would expect (Korisau/Parcell). Already 1 less player to share the minutes with over the 2RF/FRF. Can't see any of the 2nd rowers playing 80 except Brown/Buhrer so not really sure. Trbojevic certainly has the motor for 50-55 minutes. I think we need to be looking at rising forwards for teams that will definitely have two hookers to find good value props, or 2nd rowers whom will now be 80 minute players.

    Two Hooker teams like the Knights (making Rochow and Tapine for the first 5 weeks good value) etc

    Speaking of this, has anyone looked at Mitch Rein. Who is back up hooker?

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    Post by CubanMafiaSandSlugs Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:40 pm

    Very interesting discussions regarding team tactics, elite player selections and what not.

    Team selection strategy at this point (prior to round 1) should solely be focused on players you think will generate cash. Players who will increase in value. You MUST choose 1-2 guns (Smith, Fensom, Gallen, Parker Mannering etc) who will be your caption option(s). The rest should be solely for the point of building your cash balance as fast as possible to get you to your final 17 who will score you 900+ week in week out.

    My initial team selection/makeup is 100% based around which players I estimate will generate the biggest cash increases to get me to my final 17/18/19 players. Whether they be 130k nuffies, 250-300k mid-rangers or 400k+ solid scorers who may be set for a bigger role or more minutes, if I estimate an increase in cash, they will be in my side come round 1.

    When you look at 90% of your initial squad, run your eye over each player's price. Aside from your 1-2 gun caption options, if you can't see a future increase in cash value, then cut them. Simple as that. That's my strategy.

    But each to their own. At the end of the day, fantasy sports is a game of fun first and foremost.    king


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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:41 pm

    Warriors wrote:
    Johnny B Goode wrote:So if I were looking to get a mid-ranged FRF who looks like they could make a bit of cash and post some solid scores for my team who to go with between Ah Mau and Trbojevic? I have to say the argument about Trbojevic being only a mid 40's scorer at best is quite convincing but he could get better and he's rated highly by the coach while Ah Mau is a solid PPM player who if he gets the game time he'll presumably get the scores.

    If I remember right Manly had Ballin for the most part as an 80 minute hooker last year. This year they have two hookers in the 17 you would expect (Korisau/Parcell). Already 1 less player to share the minutes with over the 2RF/FRF. Can't see any of the 2nd rowers playing 80 except Brown/Buhrer so not really sure. Trbojevic certainly has the motor for 50-55 minutes. I think we need to be looking at rising forwards for teams that will definitely have two hookers to find good value props, or 2nd rowers whom will now be 80 minute players.

    Two Hooker teams like the Knights (making Rochow and Tapine for the first 5 weeks good value) etc

    Speaking of this, has anyone looked at Mitch Rein. Who is back up hooker?

    Mitch Rein at 80 would be great.  They have Havilli there now though so that is the threat.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:41 pm

    Warriors wrote:
    Johnny B Goode wrote:So if I were looking to get a mid-ranged FRF who looks like they could make a bit of cash and post some solid scores for my team who to go with between Ah Mau and Trbojevic? I have to say the argument about Trbojevic being only a mid 40's scorer at best is quite convincing but he could get better and he's rated highly by the coach while Ah Mau is a solid PPM player who if he gets the game time he'll presumably get the scores.

    If I remember right Manly had Ballin for the most part as an 80 minute hooker last year. This year they have two hookers in the 17 you would expect (Korisau/Parcell). Already 1 less player to share the minutes with over the 2RF/FRF. Can't see any of the 2nd rowers playing 80 except Brown/Buhrer so not really sure. Trbojevic certainly has the motor for 50-55 minutes. I think we need to be looking at rising forwards for teams that will definitely have two hookers to find good value props, or 2nd rowers whom will now be 80 minute players.

    Two Hooker teams like the Knights (making Rochow and Tapine for the first 5 weeks good value) etc

    Speaking of this, has anyone looked at Mitch Rein. Who is back up hooker?

    Mitch Rein at 80 would be great.  They have Havilli there now though so that is the threat.
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:43 pm

    my tv broke wrote:i really hate the way rugby league has gone in the way that many teams park a 6 on one side of the field and a 7 on the other in attack. they are there to create and should both float where need be.

    i think we will see alot more of that (6 and 7 floating/swapping/linking/etc) again this year. teams need to get creative again.

    standard block plays just dont work as well anymore. that said alot of teams just dont know how to execute them well enough to properly create an advantage. or their halves go through the motions rather than thinking on their feet.

    I think with more and more fullbacks having playmaking ability then there should be more room in the game for halves to link up together as teams will hopefully not worry about not having a typical playmaker on one side of the field should the halves join up on the other
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    Post by Warriors Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:47 pm

    CubanMafiaSandSlugs wrote:Very interesting discussions regarding team tactics, elite player selections and what not.

    Team selection strategy at this point (prior to round 1) should solely be focused on players you think will generate cash. Players who will increase in value. You MUST choose 1-2 guns (Smith, Fensom, Gallen, Parker Mannering etc) who will be your caption option(s). The rest should be solely for the point of building your cash balance to eventually give you the ability to have a rock solid 17 who will score you 900+ week in week out.

    My initial team selection/makeup is 100% based around which players I estimate will generate the biggest cash increases to get me to my final 17/18/19 players. Whether they be 130k nuffies, 250-300k mid-rangers or 400k+ solid scorers who may be set for a bigger role or more minutes, if I estimate an increase in cash, they will be in my side come round 1.

    When you look at 90% of your initial squad, run your eye over each player's price. Aside from your 1-2 gun caption options, if you can't see a future increase in cash value, then cut them. Simple as that. That's my strategy.

    But each to their own. At the end of the day, fantasy sports is a game of fun first and foremost.    king

    Was just about to post something along the lines of needing to find value to raise cash. I pick a team knowing I will be trading at least 2/3rds of it by seasons end. The trick is picking the players whom rise in value the quickest and then moving them on. This is why I am taking a stab at both Tapine and Jnik if named to start. However it is also a risk because you don't want a Lee/Nabuli either.
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    Post by Krump Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:50 pm

    CubanMafiaSandSlugs wrote:Very interesting discussions regarding team tactics, elite player selections and what not.

    Team selection strategy at this point (prior to round 1) should solely be focused on players you think will generate cash. Players who will increase in value. You MUST choose 1-2 guns (Smith, Fensom, Gallen, Parker Mannering etc) who will be your caption option(s). The rest should be solely for the point of building your cash balance as fast as possible to get you to your final 17 who will score you 900+ week in week out.

    My initial team selection/makeup is 100% based around which players I estimate will generate the biggest cash increases to get me to my final 17/18/19 players. Whether they be 130k nuffies, 250-300k mid-rangers or 400k+ solid scorers who may be set for a bigger role or more minutes, if I estimate an increase in cash, they will be in my side come round 1.

    When you look at 90% of your initial squad, run your eye over each player's price. Aside from your 1-2 gun caption options, if you can't see a future increase in cash value, then cut them. Simple as that. That's my strategy.

    But each to their own. At the end of the day, fantasy sports is a game of fun first and foremost.    king
    Perfect for a h2h team but if your not worrying about scores as well as cash from the start you'll slip down the ranking too much early and won't be able to make up the points no matter how quickly you get to your ideal 17.
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    Post by Krump Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:52 pm

    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    I think with more and more fullbacks having playmaking ability then there should be more room in the game for halves to link up together as teams will hopefully not worry about not having a typical playmaker on one side of the field should the halves join up on the other
    Marshall and Widdop had some great set plays in the first half of last year. It was exciting seeing something different being done
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:53 pm

    Warriors wrote:

    If I remember right Manly had Ballin for the most part as an 80 minute hooker last year. This year they have two hookers in the 17 you would expect (Korisau/Parcell). Already 1 less player to share the minutes with over the 2RF/FRF. Can't see any of the 2nd rowers playing 80 except Brown/Buhrer so not really sure. Trbojevic certainly has the motor for 50-55 minutes. I think we need to be looking at rising forwards for teams that will definitely have two hookers to find good value props, or 2nd rowers whom will now be 80 minute players.

    Two Hooker teams like the Knights (making Rochow and Tapine for the first 5 weeks good value) etc

    Speaking of this, has anyone looked at Mitch Rein. Who is back up hooker?


    Rising forwards is key for looking at midrangers and potentially underpriced forwards. Look at guys who are young and should likely see an improvement both in quality but also workload. Also forwards who are in the position to step into a greater role as the main man going forward. You can sit here and debate the merits of guys like JTubro and Ah Mau but those are the types of players to look at. Similarly, Tapine and Rochow as you mentioned. I like the look of McGuire for this as well, as he grows into Brisbane's main prop and metre eater with the likes of Thaiday and Parker getting one year older. Sue could be the one to step in with Taupau's absence. No to say they will all pan out but these are just some guys I am looking at as forwards who can possibly step up their average and role this year.
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:57 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Marshall and Widdop had some great set plays in the first half of last year. It was exciting seeing something different being done

    It was a large part of the reason for their hot start to the season I think. The fact that you can have 1 playmaker who can hold the ball up and pass at the right time, but rather than putting it into the hands of a fairly basic 2nd rower who doesn't have the subtleties to set up their centre sometimes, it instead goes out to another playmaker who knows exactly who and when to pass to.

    Would be great for a big sweeping play from side to side if you could link a ball playing FB like Moylan, Boyd into it and have all 3 key playmakers running at a retreating line
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    Post by Loomer Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:02 pm

    2 vs people

    Ferguson vs Gordon

    J Graham vs McGuire

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